Breaking sub-30 on 3x3

[YddEd]

So like maybe you just have to work on F2L.
Oh and this.Or this.

 

[krnballerzzz]

It seems like you already know the answers to your problem. A sub 2.5 second cross is easily doable. With someone at your speed, 100 solves a day is actually quite a lot of solves. Focus your practice on learning better F2L because intuitive F2L can only get you so far.

 

[kunparekh18]

For breaking the sub30 barrier I had to learn full PLL, try doing that, also practice f2l and try looking ahead

 

[ultimatecuber]

1)Yes.
2)Absolutely.
3)Just learn full PLL. You dont need to learn full OLL until you are sub-20

P.S. Lubricate your cube, if not already done.
Tensioning is a must too.
Lookahead too.

 

[Dene]

The problem is your recognition. The only way to improve this is a lot of practise. 100 solves a day will be fine, just keep going. Try to learn more algorithms along the way.

 

[mark49152]

For a 30 second solve, a good breakdown would be cross 3.5, pairs 15, OLL 5, PLL 6.5. That's not set in stone nor the same for everybody, but can be used as a guide to figure out your biggest weakness. Once you identify your biggest weakness, practise it or learn new techniques or algs until it is not your biggest anymore. Then move on. Repeat until sub-10...

 

[piyushp761]

make ur cross faster!! I had the same timings of cross when I was 45 seconds and now I am sub 20. You should be able to make the cross in 2-4 seconds. Try to use your inspection time for that. No need to learn full PLL and PRACTICE ALOT do at least 3-4 ao12 each day!!

 

[radmin]

I didn't go below 30 seconds until I finished full oll and pll.
I don't know why.

My advice is this: practice is not timed solves. I practice without a timer looking for ways to improve. If you find an issue, address it, drill it. Use a timer to gauge your progress.
If you can't plan the cross work on it. If you find a weak f2l case, stop make a note of it and work on it. In a timed solve you forget the thing you messed up by the end. At least I do.
Doing timed solves for an hour a day hasn't helped me improve. I'm having to re-think what practice is. Timed solves just help me maintain where I'm at.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[ianliu64]

Watch some tutorials on advanced crosses. Also, practice your F2L more and learn lookahead.
P.S. I really don't think you should start learning full PLL. I only started when I was averaging 28 seconds.

 

[crazycubes]

So u guys think I've gotta improve my f2l and cross?
But is my oll/pll fast enough? I think it's incredibly slow since i average 5 seconds per algorithm.
thnx for the replies and iam sorry i couldnt reply sooner.
Oh and is a video of my solves requiered?

 

[Robocopter87]

Yeah your PLL and OLL is slow, but if you were to drop them to 3 sec per alg, you would lose about 6 seconds off your average.

You average 45 seconds. You want to average sub-30. 45-6 =/= sub 30.

Yes, you really should learn them, but the advice you came here searching for was to improve the crap out of your F2L and cross.

Just practice.

 

[kcl]

Seriously. I got sub 23 with 4LLL. You don't need anything special. Just make your cross sub 3 and f2l sub 20.

 

[crazycubes]

Can anybody provide me a link for a video? 'cause most of them show 'how to solve the rubiks' and not 'how to solve a cross in under 6 moves'.
Thnx

 

[yockee]

Hi all !
I have an average of 45 sec and a best of 36 sec. But however hard I try, I cant get sub sec ( which is the stepping stone to my dream sub 20). I follow intuitive f2l and know 2 look oll and 2 look pll. I take-
26 sec to solve the f2l (8 sec to solve the cross)
10 sec to solve oll and 10 sec to solve pll

Should I learn full pll??? Is my cross slow? Should i get better timings for oll and pll i.e. the last layer itself????
I dont solve the cube a lot number of times every day, my max. being around 100 solves. So I need to know my weak point rather than shuffling and solving the whole cube.
What am I doing wrong?:confused::confused:

Watch this video. I go over a lot of things, so surely some of it will help you. I don't advise worrying about look ahead at the moment. You can get down to 20 sec without it. Work on cross and F2L more than anything.

Also, below is a link for some in depth cross examples. I average 14, so it should be good enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUt9ivl-teE

 

[crazycubes]

Thanks. the videos were informative. Guess what?? my average drops to 40 sec and my best to 32 sec. Even though i've improved my cross its still around 9 moves. And my pll's got a lot better. can solve it in 7 sec. Looking forward to being sub 30.
oh and sorry for the late reply( as usual). I just cant help it no time!!!!

 

[dacuberproduct]

you just need to learn advanced cross and you don't have to work on your f2l *yet, i recommend you learn most of the plls, learn the T perm, R perm, and then the G perms. Learn the N perms last because in my opinion they are the hardest algs, and they appear on your cube the least. And work on your fingertricks. Your cube might matter depending on your fingertricks

 

[speedcuber115]

time all your oll's and pll's and then drill the slowest ones until they are no longer the slowest. keep doing this and your algs will get faster very quickly.

 

[cubingsamurai]

So difficult to improve past sub 30

I have been cubing since December and all this time I still don't even have a average of sub-30. I feel so frustrated because I'm solving the cube so many times and I don't seem to be improving. I can solve any F2l case, I know 4 look last layer. I just want to know if there's anybody out there who finds it so difficult to beat an average that seems so slow to others. I have such a hard time memorizing algorithms and I can sometimes forget these algorithms. I keep practicing but nothing helps and timing my solves just gets me inconsistent times, some including 40 seconds or over and it discourages me because I like speed cubing and want to get fast. My shortest time is only 19.44. I have times where I think my look-ahead is very fast and sometimes I pause for seconds. Can anybody give me some tips or motivation? Is there anybody out there going through the same thing?

 

[brian724080]

It sounds like you may be having trouble with your 4LLL. If you sometimes forget the algs, it might also be the case that you're not proficient with the recognition, so that there is probably the easiest way to start. Next, you have to think about the cases during F2L. You stated that you can solve any F2L case, which is good, but you need to lessen the time in between F2L pairs. Often times it is very difficult to stay focused, so you shouldn't be discouraged by that.

 

[Villyer]

I have a fairly large spread at times too, I consider myself sub-25 but I will occasionally have two solves in a row over thirty seconds. Often when I do it's because I pause for a while finding the next f2l pair (caused by not knowing how to blindly insert the previous, so my look ahead is hindered) or because I pause trying to remember an algorithm for OLL (having just recently started learning one look)