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5BLD's And PandaCuber's Roux Tutorial

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TanookiTrev

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I remember I averaged around 27 with CFOP and I started playing with roux and my times went up a minute(so 1:30)
I continued with Roux because I hated the algs of CFOP. Just kept playing with it and within a few months, I was already faster than my cfop times.

Ooooh this makes me want to do loads of solves :) Thanks!
 

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No, I really have no clue which one to pick. Roux can be improved in means of efficient solving F2B and learning CMLL, while CFOP is somewhere reaching it's limits. UGH, hate this decision.
* coin flip would probably result in "aw man" for cfop, because I really like Roux while CFOP is just faster (currently).

I started geting serious about Roux when my CFOP solves felt too comfortable. I put so much work into Inspection that my look ahead made solving boring and left my tps as the main section of improvement.

On the otherhand, I have ALOT of things that I need to improve with Roux and feel it is a method that can grow with its user. It also has a much lower movecount if you control your eo and blocks.

Why not use both? CFOP is not a hard method to keep in shape for. you could do around 20 CFOP solves a day and spend the rest of the time improving your Roux. Either way, don't lose hope in Roux so easily!!!
 

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I practiced yesterday efficient solving SB, and very few solves are closer optimal when solving middle edge + 2x f2l pair, it's even better to do middle edge+corner+edge + pair. The point is, all I've ever done is f2l-ing, and now I realize there's even more to improve in my roux. cmll algs, lse look-ahead still waiting, so as optimal FB. And I do like Roux. Damn with choices.

I also flipped coin.
The result:

tails = Roux
"YESS!!" :D
 

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I practiced yesterday efficient solving SB, and very few solves are closer optimal when solving middle edge + 2x f2l pair, it's even better to do middle edge+corner+edge + pair. The point is, all I've ever done is f2l-ing, and now I realize there's even more to improve in my roux. cmll algs, lse look-ahead still waiting, so as optimal FB. And I do like Roux. Damn with choices.

I also flipped coin.
The result:

tails = Roux
"YESS!!" :D

Hmmm. Good luck with optimal first block on every solve...
Also:
YEESSSS!! :D
 

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*more optimal :D

Session stats:
number of times: 50/50
best time: 14.14
worst time: 29.38

best avg5: 15.77
best avg12: 16.75

21.55, 21.07, 20.80, 15.87, 19.13, 16.10, 18.59, 14.97, 24.40, 16.91, 22.47, 16.72, 20.26, 29.38, 23.23, 16.96, 19.96, 18.74, 19.87, 22.14, 16.45, 15.14, 17.99, 18.04, 26.07, 18.19, 16.00, 23.21, 25.16, 20.01, 19.49, 17.91, 16.71, 19.63, 22.77, 15.67, 17.06, 14.70, (23.24), 15.56, (14.14), 17.19, 15.93, 17.80, 17.24, 17.51, 18.80, 17.58, 17.66, 17.37

-_- pause that did nothing good. f2b takes usually 10.xx seconds
this is painful
 

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B2 R2 F' L F D F L' R D F U' L' U' F2 U F2 B' L' U R' D' B R' U Scramble white on top, green front
Is the Blue-White-Green-Red first block the best or is there better?

Well, those three pieces can fit two centers, giving two different blocks. Put the scramble into jarcs and it gives these as the shortest:

F2 M B D'
L U' F2 D2 B
 

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B2 R2 F' L F D F L' R D F U' L' U' F2 U F2 B' L' U R' D' B R' U Scramble white on top, green front
Is the Blue-White-Green-Red first block the best or is there better?

I would do

y' x'
r U' B R2 u2 B u // (7, 54)
U R' U' r' U' M' U' R' // (7, 54)
F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' // yperm (17, 54)
U' M' U' M' U' M2 U' M' U' M' // EO (10, 54)
M2 U' M' U2 M U M2 U // UL/UR (8, 54)
M' U2 M U2 R2 // L4E (5, 54)

I'm not sure if it's the best, but that's what I see.
 

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I would do

y' x'
r U' B R2 u2 B u // (7, 54)
U R' U' r' U' M' U' R' // (7, 54)
F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' // yperm (17, 54)
U' M' U' M' U' M2 U' M' U' M' // EO (10, 54)
M2 U' M' U2 M U M2 U // UL/UR (8, 54)
M' U2 M U2 R2 // L4E (5, 54)

I'm not sure if it's the best, but that's what I see.
for EO
U' M' U M U' M' U' M' //EO (8)
U M2 U' // UL/UR (3)
r2 U2 M' U2 M //EP (5)
 

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B2 R2 F' L F D F L' R D F U' L' U' F2 U F2 B' L' U R' D' B R' U Scramble white on top, green front
Is the Blue-White-Green-Red first block the best or is there better?

z'y'
R2Eru' 4/4
U'r'UM'URU2R URU'MU'R' 14/18
x'RUR'DRU'RU'R2D'RUL' 13/31
MUM'UM' U'MU2M U'M2U2M' 14/45

SB was long, and so was LSE but its what id do in speedsolve
 

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F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' // yperm (17, 54)
U' M' U' M' U' M2 U' M' U' M' // EO (10, 54)
M2 U' M' U2 M U M2 U // UL/UR (8, 54)
M' U2 M U2 R2 // L4E (5, 54)

MUM2 //EO
x'r'DR2UR'U2R'D'RU2RU'L' //CMLL+ ULUR stuff
UM2U //ULUR
rU2M'U2r //4c
 
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