5BLD's And PandaCuber's Roux Tutorial

[TanookiTrev]

I remember I averaged around 27 with CFOP and I started playing with roux and my times went up a minute(so 1:30)
I continued with Roux because I hated the algs of CFOP. Just kept playing with it and within a few months, I was already faster than my cfop times.

Ooooh this makes me want to do loads of solves Thanks!

 

[A Leman]

No, I really have no clue which one to pick. Roux can be improved in means of efficient solving F2B and learning CMLL, while CFOP is somewhere reaching it's limits. UGH, hate this decision.
* coin flip would probably result in "aw man" for cfop, because I really like Roux while CFOP is just faster (currently).

I started geting serious about Roux when my CFOP solves felt too comfortable. I put so much work into Inspection that my look ahead made solving boring and left my tps as the main section of improvement.

On the otherhand, I have ALOT of things that I need to improve with Roux and feel it is a method that can grow with its user. It also has a much lower movecount if you control your eo and blocks.

Why not use both? CFOP is not a hard method to keep in shape for. you could do around 20 CFOP solves a day and spend the rest of the time improving your Roux. Either way, don't lose hope in Roux so easily!!!

 

[5BLD]

It will end up being a lot of work to maintain the CFOP. Roux progress WILL be faster if you work on it more you see.

 

[AbstractAlg]

I practiced yesterday efficient solving SB, and very few solves are closer optimal when solving middle edge + 2x f2l pair, it's even better to do middle edge+corner+edge + pair. The point is, all I've ever done is f2l-ing, and now I realize there's even more to improve in my roux. cmll algs, lse look-ahead still waiting, so as optimal FB. And I do like Roux. Damn with choices.

I also flipped coin.
The result:

Spoiler

tails = Roux
"YESS!!"

 

[5BLD]

I practiced yesterday efficient solving SB, and very few solves are closer optimal when solving middle edge + 2x f2l pair, it's even better to do middle edge+corner+edge + pair. The point is, all I've ever done is f2l-ing, and now I realize there's even more to improve in my roux. cmll algs, lse look-ahead still waiting, so as optimal FB. And I do like Roux. Damn with choices.

I also flipped coin.
The result:

Spoiler

tails = Roux
"YESS!!"

Hmmm. Good luck with optimal first block on every solve...
Also:

Spoiler

YEESSSS!!

 

[AbstractAlg]

*more optimal

Session stats:

Spoiler

number of times: 50/50
best time: 14.14
worst time: 29.38

best avg5: 15.77
best avg12: 16.75

21.55, 21.07, 20.80, 15.87, 19.13, 16.10, 18.59, 14.97, 24.40, 16.91, 22.47, 16.72, 20.26, 29.38, 23.23, 16.96, 19.96, 18.74, 19.87, 22.14, 16.45, 15.14, 17.99, 18.04, 26.07, 18.19, 16.00, 23.21, 25.16, 20.01, 19.49, 17.91, 16.71, 19.63, 22.77, 15.67, 17.06, 14.70, (23.24), 15.56, (14.14), 17.19, 15.93, 17.80, 17.24, 17.51, 18.80, 17.58, 17.66, 17.37

-_- pause that did nothing good. f2b takes usually 10.xx seconds
this is painful

 

[Iggy]

Great tutorial! Just started learning Roux a few weeks ago, my current PB is 22.xx. I think I average around 38-40. It's just so fun!

 

[PandaCuber]

Great tutorial! Just started learning Roux a few weeks ago, my current PB is 22.xx. I think I average around 38-40. It's just so fun!

Thanks. Keep up the good work.

 

[arcio1]

B2 R2 F' L F D F L' R D F U' L' U' F2 U F2 B' L' U R' D' B R' U Scramble white on top, green front
Is the Blue-White-Green-Red first block the best or is there better?

 

[Athefre]

B2 R2 F' L F D F L' R D F U' L' U' F2 U F2 B' L' U R' D' B R' U Scramble white on top, green front
Is the Blue-White-Green-Red first block the best or is there better?

Well, those three pieces can fit two centers, giving two different blocks. Put the scramble into jarcs and it gives these as the shortest:

F2 M B D'
L U' F2 D2 B

 

[Ickathu]

B2 R2 F' L F D F L' R D F U' L' U' F2 U F2 B' L' U R' D' B R' U Scramble white on top, green front
Is the Blue-White-Green-Red first block the best or is there better?

I would do

y' x'
r U' B R2 u2 B u // (7, 54)
U R' U' r' U' M' U' R' // (7, 54)
F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' // yperm (17, 54)
U' M' U' M' U' M2 U' M' U' M' // EO (10, 54)
M2 U' M' U2 M U M2 U // UL/UR (8, 54)
M' U2 M U2 R2 // L4E (5, 54)

I'm not sure if it's the best, but that's what I see.

 

[Cool Frog]

I would do

y' x'
r U' B R2 u2 B u // (7, 54)
U R' U' r' U' M' U' R' // (7, 54)
F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' // yperm (17, 54)
U' M' U' M' U' M2 U' M' U' M' // EO (10, 54)
M2 U' M' U2 M U M2 U // UL/UR (8, 54)
M' U2 M U2 R2 // L4E (5, 54)

I'm not sure if it's the best, but that's what I see.

for EO
U' M' U M U' M' U' M' //EO (8)
U M2 U' // UL/UR (3)
r2 U2 M' U2 M //EP (5)

 

[5BLD]

B2 R2 F' L F D F L' R D F U' L' U' F2 U F2 B' L' U R' D' B R' U Scramble white on top, green front
Is the Blue-White-Green-Red first block the best or is there better?

z'y'
R2Eru' 4/4
U'r'UM'URU2R URU'MU'R' 14/18
x'RUR'DRU'RU'R2D'RUL' 13/31
MUM'UM' U'MU2M U'M2U2M' 14/45

SB was long, and so was LSE but its what id do in speedsolve

 

[5BLD]

F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' // yperm (17, 54)
U' M' U' M' U' M2 U' M' U' M' // EO (10, 54)
M2 U' M' U2 M U M2 U // UL/UR (8, 54)
M' U2 M U2 R2 // L4E (5, 54)

MUM2 //EO
x'r'DR2UR'U2R'D'RU2RU'L' //CMLL+ ULUR stuff
UM2U //ULUR
rU2M'U2r //4c

 

[arcio1]

z'y'
R2Eru' 4/4
U'r'UM'URU2R URU'MU'R' 14/18
x'RUR'DRU'RU'R2D'RUL' 13/31
MUM'UM' U'MU2M U'M2U2M' 14/45

SB was long, and so was LSE but its what id do in speedsolve

It doesn't seem to work.
http://alg.garron.us/?alg=z-y- R2Er...-_R_D_F_U-_L-_U-_F2_U_F2_B-_L-_U_R-_D-_B_R-_U

 

[5BLD]

Oh you can use common sense
z'y' R2Eru' // 4/4 U'r'UM'URU2R URU'MU'R' // 14/18 x'RUR'DRU'RU'R2D'RUL' // 13/31 MUM'UM' U'MU2M U'MU2M'// 14/45

 

[arcio1]

Just wanted to inform you

 

[5BLD]

ya thanks for that
sorry my comment was a tiny bit rude
too much talking to kirjava

 

[PandaCuber]

too much talking to kirjava

Next thing you know, youll have cat ears on and taking seminude pics...

 

[Cool Frog]

Next thing you know, youll have cat ears on and taking seminude pics...

What do you mean "Next thing you know?"