3x3x3 time limits?

[TioMario]

We all know that human beings have physical limitations. So, knowing that:
What do you think is the limit of a 3x3x3 speedsolve? We have seen Erik's and some other mind-blowing awesome cuber's times almost reaching 6 seconds.
Do you think the 6 sec barrier will be crossed and we will have sub-6 averages in the future?

 

[4Chan]

Yes.

EDIT: Average does sound implausible.

 

[ianini]

I think the limit for a single solve is 6.05 or so.

 

[Faz]

Sub 6 averages? No way.

Sub 5 (lucky) singles have already been acheived though.

 

[anythingtwisty]

I honestly believe that any time is possible with enough practice and the right cube.

 

[TioMario]

Sub-5...? LINK!

 

[Faz]

Who says there is a video?

Breandan's 4.72 LL skip is in the Easy scrambles thread somewhere. I had 4.83 PLL skip but I scrambled wrong.

 

[TioMario]

So, you don't think is possible sub-5 or sub-6 times without some luck on your side?

 

[Carson]

Given that every possible scramble would eventually turn up... and given that eventually every possible combination of 5 scrambles would also eventually turn up... it is entirely possible that there will eventually be a competition round with 5 incredibly easy scrambles. When this happens, let's just hope that one of the "best of the best" is there and that he/she happens to very "on" during that round.

 

[minsarker]

I honestly think sub 5 or sub 6 is possible with luck but without any luck, I dont see it happening.

Also the average is just impossible...

But who knows.

 

[IamWEB]

This has to be method specific, because otherwise we can't predict these limits.

 

[TioMario]

I mean, it doesn't matter what method do you use. I think that when you are at that point, the method is not relevant, the execution counts more.

 

[4Chan]

Some methods have a faster lower bound than other methods.

 

[IamWEB]

This will sound really odd but: 4Chan is right.

 

[Sin-H]

Who says there is a video?

Breandan's 4.72 LL skip is in the Easy scrambles thread somewhere. I had 4.83 PLL skip but I scrambled wrong.

Breandan also has a full step 4.72. But it's tremendously lucky

 

[Zubon]

Let's assume that an amazing method could be developed which allows solutions close to the optimal solution, around 20 turns. Then it would purely be up to how many TPSs you cold do.

Assuming an amazingly fast cuber could do 6 TPS, that would allow an average of 3-4 seconds.

All we need now is someone who can find a near optimal solution within the 15s inspection time.... Anybody....? :confused:

 

[Cuber3]

Let's assume that an amazing method could be developed which allows solutions close to the optimal solution, around 20 turns. Then it would purely be up to how many TPSs you cold do.

Assuming an amazingly fast cuber could do 6 TPS, that would allow an average of 3-4 seconds.

All we need now is someone who can find a near optimal solution within the 15s inspection time.... Anybody....? :confused:

Well, if we plant a computer into someone's head with cube explorer loaded on it, then yes!

 

[Hyprul 9-ty2]

Who says there is a video?

Breandan's 4.72 LL skip is in the Easy scrambles thread somewhere. I had 4.83 PLL skip but I scrambled wrong.

Breandan also has a full step 4.72. But it's tremendously lucky

ARE YOU SERIOUS

 

[Omniscient]

an the virtual cube it is possible sub 6

 

[LNZ]

I have seen a 6.28 second solve on Youtube. So sub 6 seconds is possible.

Given since the invention of the 3x3x3 cube, that less than 0.0001 pecent of all 4.32E19 states of the cube have been seen, I'll say sub 6 in an official WCA event will happen one day. It will take ten of thousands of events though.