3x3x3 time limits?

[Sin-H]

I have seen a 6.28 second solve on Youtube. So sub 6 seconds is possible.

Given since the invention of the 3x3x3 cube, that less than 0.0001 pecent of all 4.32E19 states of the cube have been seen, I'll say sub 6 in an official WCA event will happen one day. It will take ten of thousands of events though.

if a top guy gets a good run + LL skip, there you have it. Takes a lot of tries, though xD

Who says there is a video?

Breandan's 4.72 LL skip is in the Easy scrambles thread somewhere. I had 4.83 PLL skip but I scrambled wrong.

Breandan also has a full step 4.72. But it's tremendously lucky

ARE YOU SERIOUS

yes I am serious

 

[lorki3]

I think the limit for a single solve is 6.05 or so.[/QUO

no erik had a 4 seconds solve with a scramble got

 

[Sin-H]

I think the limit for a single solve is 6.05 or so.[/QUO

no erik had a 4 seconds solve with a scramble got

I have a 3.45 seconds solve with a scramble got.
faz did 3.27 on it.

the question is what will be done in competition...

 

[Escher]

I don't think we will see anybody that can average better than 8 tps (the UWR for tps in solve is 8.18 with Breandans 7.21 I think), I guess that there will be people who use ZZ-ZB with say, a 44 move count on average.
O wait, that gives us an average of 4.5s xD

I expect that somebody will hit 7-8s average in the future, but I don't think that it can go any (much) further without some serious method development.

 

[4Chan]

ZZ-ZB is hard. )';
We need someone to get really good at it, maybe, that person could be you.

(I think I'm the only who uses it, and I can barely eke out a sub-20 average of 5)

 

[Omniscient]

Mark Waterman method is the fastest faster than Fridrich

 

[4Chan]

@Omniscient:

ಠ_ಠ

 

[Pedro]

I don't think people will get under 9 seconds average in competition

at least not in the near future

 

[Omniscient]

@Omniscient:

ಠ_ಠ

don't give me the look
ps.off topic sorry

 

[sz35]

in my opinion the only way to avg sub 8 EVERY TIME is to learn full ZB (or ZZ+ZBLL) and to get the recognition down to less than a second. and than lucky solves can get sub 5 easily.

 

[KwS Pall]

sub5? why not sub 4.99?

 

[irontwig]

I would say that the #1 factor on how fast future cubers will be is not which method they use or how fast they can turn, but rather how many they are.

 

[Tomk]

in my opinion the only way to avg sub 8 EVERY TIME is to learn full ZB (or ZZ+ZBLL) and to get the recognition down to less than a second. and than lucky solves can get sub 5 easily.

I don't believe that ZB makes you any faster, infact the inverse as you cannot practise the algorithms nearly as much and i would imagine the recognition in hell. I agree that the main factor will be how many very fast cubers go to competitions often.

 

[gyc6001]

there is absolutely no limits to the 3x3 time.
If you're lucky enough, you could get something like a 5 move solve and sub-1 is possible.

 

[jms_gears1]

assuming your average solve takes around 60 moves (that an average solve for people right?)

at 10 tps you could get ~6 second solves constantly, however i want to see anyone be able to do 10 tps...

 

[adimare]

 

[Athefre]

assuming your average solve takes around 60 moves (that an average solve for people right?)

at 10 tps you could get ~6 second solves constantly, however i want to see anyone be able to do 10 tps...

Maybe 60 moves for Fridrich and Petrus. But I was averaging somewhere around 45 moves when I was using "Roux".

 

[Cyrus C.]

That was prepared.

 

[miniGOINGS]

in my opinion the only way to avg sub 8 EVERY TIME is to learn full ZB (or ZZ+ZBLL) and to get the recognition down to less than a second. and than lucky solves can get sub 5 easily.

For a second there I thought you said "inspection".

 

[4Chan]

Uhhh, ZZ+ZBLL.... hmmm, sub-5 average with that method would be tough.
REALLLLYYYY TOUGH.

I was thinking the lower bound to be 7 or 8.

Also, Tomk, you have no idea how ZBLL is recognized, do you?
I mean, looking at an OLL case, and then 4 stickers is really hard. D:

Or even recognizing edge cycles!
That's as hard as determining a U, Z, H perm, and knowing if it's clockwise or counter-clockwise! D:

ZZ+ZBLL is a really good method.
It just needs someone to be good at it, I'm not exaggerating when I say that 40-50 move solves can be achieved on average.