2 look OLL question - rotate whole cube or top layer?

[Timmah]

So I’m getting the hang of 2 look OLL/PLL now, but have a question about rotation.

in this case, I ended up with the turtle facing left, and all centres are correct.

Does it make a difference in this sort of case if I:

(A) rotate whole cube so turtle faces me, and do Sune to get to PLL,

or

(B) rotate just the top layer so turtle faces me, and do Sune to get to PLL

I don’t expect a solve for specifically for this case, I’m more looking at generally for 2 Look OLL. Is it better to rotate whole cube to get top layer oriented, or just turn top layer?

or am I overthinking the method and it makes no difference

 

[NebraskanSpeedsolver]

So I’m getting the hang of 2 look OLL/PLL now, but have a question about rotation.

in this case, I ended up with the turtle facing left, and all centres are correct.

View attachment 28331

Does it make a difference in this sort of case if I:

(A) rotate whole cube so turtle faces me, and do Sune to get to PLL,

View attachment 28330

or

(B) rotate just the top layer so turtle faces me, and do Sune to get to PLL

View attachment 28329

I don’t expect a solve for specifically for this case, I’m more looking at generally for 2 Look OLL. Is it better to rotate whole cube to get top layer oriented, or just turn top layer?

or am I overthinking the method and it makes no difference

If you are only using sunes, it doesn't matter 100% which angle you do it from.
My advice though, is learn the first few OLLs, the ones with edges correct. They are all pretty easy.

 

[NmeCuber]

So I’m getting the hang of 2 look OLL/PLL now, but have a question about rotation.

in this case, I ended up with the turtle facing left, and all centres are correct.

View attachment 28331

Does it make a difference in this sort of case if I:

(A) rotate whole cube so turtle faces me, and do Sune to get to PLL,

View attachment 28330

or

(B) rotate just the top layer so turtle faces me, and do Sune to get to PLL

View attachment 28329

I don’t expect a solve for specifically for this case, I’m more looking at generally for 2 Look OLL. Is it better to rotate whole cube to get top layer oriented, or just turn top layer?

or am I overthinking the method and it makes no difference

Turning just the top layer is way better than rotating the whole cube. It may not seem like much difference now, but it's a bad habit to rotate the cube as it's slower.

 

[Skewby_Doo]

Definitely turn only the top layer to get to the angle you need. It will hurt you a ton in the long run if you don't make the switch, as rotating should be avoided whenever you can as it takes a lot of time.

 

[Timmah]

Sweet, thank you @NebraskanSpeedsolver @NmeCuber @Skewby_Doo Those tips help!

But.... but... MORE algorithms? Its such a slippery slope to just learning them ALL

 

[NebraskanSpeedsolver]

If you use the website in my signature, there should be a page for 3x3 OLL linked at the top of the site. You can either use it or JPerm's site
Start with edges correct, as you already know one of them