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[4Chan]

And was he any good at FMC?

EDIT: He was pretty good.
Yeah, it was Morley Davidson.

 

[kinch2002]

EDIT: He was pretty good.
Yeah, it was Morley Davidson.

Cool that he's putting in a lot of effort for it, but I'm pretty sure the time could be spent better on other FMC things. Possible backup for that is his official results of DNF DNF DNS 36. Not that great.

 

[EricReese]

I love how no one flamed for the bump

No really, it was getting annoying

If one were to learn 2GLL and ZZLL, is that a big chunk of zbll gone? or do some of the algs from those 2 sets cross over (if that makes sense

 

[RyanReese09]

Yes 2gll and ZZLL are subsets of ZBLL, so you would be knocking out a good chunk of ZBLL with that.

 

[uberCuber]

WV + KLL is better than ZBF2L + ZBLL :tu way less algs

Lol wonder how many people are gonna look up wtf KLL is now :3

 

[emolover]

WV + KLL is better than ZBF2L + ZBLL :tu way less algs

Lol wonder how many people are gonna look up wtf KLL is now :3

Ok, I least I know that WV is winter variation. But what on earth is KLL!?!?!?!

 

[Godmil]

not heard of KLL but if WV only orientates the corners, then KLL would need to permute the corners, orientate and permute the edges... sounds like a lot of algs.

 

[irontwig]

Cool that he's putting in a lot of effort for it, but I'm pretty sure the time could be spent better on other FMC things. Possible backup for that is his official results of DNF DNF DNS 36. Not that great.

Not to mention that it's not too uncommon that leaving three corners with a short alg and then doing an insertion results in a shorter solution than just doing the optimal LL.

 

[OMGitsSolved]

I have a question. If ZZLL is just COLL but preserving the orientation and permutation of the edges how come there isn't just 42 cases?

 

[Kirjava]

R Perm, J Perm etc.

 

[OMGitsSolved]

Oh, That makes so much more since. Can't people just phase the edges and use L4C?

 

[irontwig]

ZZLL is L4C and opp swap (e.g. T-perm).

 

[uberCuber]

KLL would need to permute the corners, orientate and permute the edges... sounds like a lot of algs.

It is not nearly as many algs as ZBLL. Think about it. There are 22 PLL cases (counting solved). For a non-symmetrical PLL, there are 8 edge orientation cases (solved, UF/UB, UL/UR, UF/UL, UL/UB, UB/UR, UR/UF, UF/UR/UB/UL). 22*8 = 176 (and one of these is the solved case). Symmetry (H perm, Z perm, solved case, E perm, N perms...) makes the number less than this. ZBLL is more than 176 (its actually 177 iirc ) even with both mirrors and inverses counted as the same alg.

EDIT: Just looked up. 177 is the correct number for ZBLL with counting mirrors and inverses as the same alg. For KLL, that number is 84, including the 21 PLLs.