How Common is Colour Neutrality?

[Shortshrimp]

i recently (last 5 months) have taught my uncle to cube, he's 25 and i gave him a zhanchi and told him every solve to use a deferent colour, now he is 100% colour neutral

wish someone had told me to do that when i started

I know right!

 

[Dene]

(Late reply because I forgot about this thread)

But are you sure they all use the same definition of CN and that it's one you agree with? Already the topic starter said "it seems to me that most people can only start on white" and I certainly *can* start on let's say orange (I just suck at it).

Possibly, but I would think the vast majority of cubers would be familiar with what is meant by CN. I would hazard a guess that the OP simply mis-spoke (-typed) in the aforementioned quote.

 

[Ross The Boss]

are there any colour neutral ZZ solvers? seems like CN ZZ would be pretty hard.

 

[mDiPalma]

are there any colour neutral ZZ solvers? seems like CN ZZ would be pretty hard.

In CN CFOP inspection, all you need to do in 15 seconds is find 4 edges that can slide together nicely.

In CN ZZ inspection, you have to check EO in 3 distinctly different orientations while also checking for 12 different sets of line edges.
If I can currently identify EO and plan my line in around 3-4 seconds, it would be theoretically impossible for me to check all the possible fixed center orientations for better solutions (as well as just remember which solution was the easiest) in 15 seconds.

Also, even if it were possible, CN ZZ doesn't really accomplish much. Saving 1-2 moves on EOline is definitely NOT worth sacrificing cube awareness.

Some ZZers like Phil Yu can solve the cube in two distinct orientations (YB & YR) to avoid terribad EOlines. He seems very fond of this idea.

Another type of ZZ color neutrality is about the z-axis. This is much simpler than full CN, because a z rotation does not affect EO.

 

[aznanimedude]

Dominate i think is CN for ZZ, but he'd have to expand on that because i don't know much about any help or how CN he actually is for ZZ

 

[cannon4747]

I solve the white side on all cubes (except 2x2) and megaminx, but I'm color neutral on everything else. Whenever I get a new puzzle I learn/make a method with color neutrality simply because it makes it easier to solve.

 

[cjquines]

Yes well. I'm not going to be color neutral since it would probably be easier for white cross recognition. White is a really standout color.

 

[kp]

Yes well. I'm not going to be color neutral since it would probably be easier for white cross recognition. White is a really standout color.

Perhaps that's because you've probably been doing it with white ever since. Maybe if you had used, say, orange exclusively from the start, it would "stand out" more when looking at pieces. I'm sure there are people that are not colour neutral, whose main colour isn't white.

 

[Ninja Storm]

Perhaps that's because you've probably been doing it with white ever since. Maybe if you had used, say, orange exclusively from the start, it would "stand out" more when looking at pieces. I'm sure there are people that are not colour neutral, whose main colour isn't white.

There are quite a few. Mats Valk uses green/blue I believe, and Kevin Costello uses Red/Orange, to name a couple fasties out there.

 

[Shortshrimp]

I answered "partially" because I'm W/Y neutral.

Yeah, same thing here.

 

[Kattenvriendin]

I am color neutral but only on the 2x2.

 

[CAFCSam65]

I'm set in my ways. For 3x3 and above I always start on white. Sometimes if there is a really good alternate cross colour I will go for it, but normally my F2l suffers as a result and I end up with an average time, even with the cross advantage. I used to try and do either white or yellow, but I just gave it up in the end. 2x2 and Pyraminx I don't bother though. Any colour for those two.

 

[PedroSabioni]

There are quite a few. Mats Valk uses green/blue I believe, and Kevin Costello uses Red/Orange, to name a couple fasties out there.

Antoine Cantin uses orange

 

[yamacrane]

I'm white/yellow/blue color neutral. It helped me at least to start with the Japanese color scheme and go to the American color scheme after that. I cant do blue for 4x4, because i solve yau, but yellow/white is nice on the 4x4

 

[Spaxxy]

I learned on white, and I almost exclusively used that, but I have recently experimented with color neutrality on yellow, and I am about the same on both colors.

 

[Johnny]

Color neutrality, for me, makes solving way more fun.

 

[TheDubDubJr]

I use Color Neutral for 4x4 on Yau. It takes some getting used to but I really like it.
Depending if people are interested in it, I was thinking about making a video on my thought process and how I use CN Yau.

 

[ottozing]

I use Color Neutral for 4x4 on Yau. It takes some getting used to but I really like it.
Depending if people are interested in it, I was thinking about making a video on my thought process and how I use CN Yau.

Oh nice you switched

I should probably make a video about CN yau because I really have a lot to say about it.