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And if not, push on the center piece so it comes down again.
I showed it in my review, the second one.
I showed it in my review, the second one.
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I'm 100% sure I told someone to solve the cube a few hundred times for it to get better.
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OK, finished assembling the cube. I had the same problem I read somewhere here - the cube felt pretty good loose, but then I had to screw the screws in so much further to get the caps on that it changed the feel for the worse. First impression is that it has potential but will take time to break in. The light feel and smooth cornering reminds me of a Lingyun, but it's more robust. It feels like it badly needs some lube on the pieces, but I haven't put any in because of the comments made here (I only have Traxxas 50k).
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Just do like 50 ao12 or something.
(To break it in)
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Obviously. Or is what you're saying that it doesn't need lube once broken in?
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Well other people say it doesn't need it.
I haven't got mine yet but I wont lube it until I break it in properly. I'll post here to see how it is with and without lube.
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It doesn't really need lube. It's flimsy and fast as is and overturns easily.
The problem of this cube is it's flimsiness, which makes it worse than a dayan to some cubers. It forgives too much even. The reason to this are the soft springs and the fact that there is way too much air for the screw to roll within the center piece. The gap between the stem of the screw and the plastic of the center piece makes it spin a lot better and faster, but it can end in misalignments of the pieces that want to be in a cubic shape. When you turn the center caps are pivoting because there is air between the screw and the plastic, while the rest of the cube wants to stay in a cubic shape. This results in the pieces taking a form set by the core and screws => the cube is flimsy and cannot keep a cubic shape easily. This also makes the center pieces lock the rest of the cube up during some algorithms. This extra air makes some algorithms easier, algorithms that are made with fingers that are harder to control such as H perms, Z perms and perms that use the D layer a lot like the E perm. When you use your pinky and ring fingers you almost never (in my personal opinion) flick the cube where its supposed to go, but a little off the target. The ShuangRen forgives this, because the cube is airy. The Dayan would lock up easier here. This is why people that are really fast (and accurate, their ring finger and pinky moves are accurate and move the pieces along the cubic form) are faster with the ShuangRen, and slower people arent. It's about accuracy and cubing style.
I'll be making a video of this soon.
The problem of this cube is it's flimsiness, which makes it worse than a dayan to some cubers. It forgives too much even. The reason to this are the soft springs and the fact that there is way too much air for the screw to roll within the center piece. The gap between the stem of the screw and the plastic of the center piece makes it spin a lot better and faster, but it can end in misalignments of the pieces that want to be in a cubic shape. When you turn the center caps are pivoting because there is air between the screw and the plastic, while the rest of the cube wants to stay in a cubic shape. This results in the pieces taking a form set by the core and screws => the cube is flimsy and cannot keep a cubic shape easily. This also makes the center pieces lock the rest of the cube up during some algorithms. This extra air makes some algorithms easier, algorithms that are made with fingers that are harder to control such as H perms, Z perms and perms that use the D layer a lot like the E perm. When you use your pinky and ring fingers you almost never (in my personal opinion) flick the cube where its supposed to go, but a little off the target. The ShuangRen forgives this, because the cube is airy. The Dayan would lock up easier here. This is why people that are really fast (and accurate, their ring finger and pinky moves are accurate and move the pieces along the cubic form) are faster with the ShuangRen, and slower people arent. It's about accuracy and cubing style.
I'll be making a video of this soon.
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mark49152
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Then why are you on here offering advice? You add nothing by just blindly repeating what others have said.
Good analysis, thanks; I would agree with most of what you wrote. The best thing about the cube is its forgiving nature, and I use lots of <RUD> algs (my R, G, A, N, V, Ja perms as well as E perm are all <RUD>). I think you're right about the Fangshi favouring those algs. Mine certainly isn't fast though - the second best thing about it is that after half an hour of solving on the Fangshi, I can go back to my Zhanchi and it feels incredibly fast and smooth, almost frictionless
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everyone was like "omg so awesome everyone get one !"
then I ordered one and some calvinspuzzle lube
now everyone is like "it sucks dont lube it it overturns the corners twist its flimsy"
everyone was like "omg so awesome everyone get one !"
then I ordered one and some calvinspuzzle lube
now everyone is like "it sucks dont lube it it overturns the corners twist its flimsy"
mark49152
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Yep, based on virtually no user feedback. Anyone who didn't realise they were gambling by pre-ordering deserves to be parted from their money, as the old adage says
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Dont get me wrong; it's a great puzzle for great speedcubers. I see the 54.7mm ShuangRen taking a leading place for people solving OH for example. We might even see some new records with it some day. Personally I dont think my cube control is quite at the level what the ShuangRen needs.
But yeah, it doesn't need lube EXCEPT in the core. In the core it helps loads. The pieces just dont need any because of how it's designed.
But yeah, it doesn't need lube EXCEPT in the core. In the core it helps loads. The pieces just dont need any because of how it's designed.
littlewing1208
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The spring tension will keep these pieces together, but a small drop of super glue couldn't hurt if you don't like how tight they go together. However, I wonder if the design assumes a slight rock between these two pieces during usage....
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I added some 10k diff oil to the pieces. After a while of breaking in the lube it feels better than without it (imo)
mark49152
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That's exactly why I asked, although I can't imagine how it would help.
littlewing1208
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I have a second one coming (white DIY) today from thecubicle.us and I might glue the centers together and I'll report back.
peterbone
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I know this is 5 days late, but it looks to me like you didn't screw the screws in straight. The cores don't come with a thread for the screws, so you have to make sure you screw them in straight. If not then it will get harder to turn the deeper the screw gets. It will be difficult to fix it now that you've formed a thread at the wrong angle.Thanks for the reply. I might try to re-assemble tonight... my screw currently looks like this:
And I cannot physically turn these screws any deeper. I wonder if my screws are too long or if my core is different or the springs are too big...
PeelingStickers
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I've assembled mine finally. It's a good cube, no doubting that. However I replaced the core with an unused zhanchi core. This gives the cube a much more unstable feel.
I found originally that if I didn't tighten it enough, the screws would come out by themselves, which led to explosions. The cube still pops which is frustrating, does anyone else's pop? if it does, what core do you have?
Thinking of switching over to the Fangshi core to try and resolve this.
I found originally that if I didn't tighten it enough, the screws would come out by themselves, which led to explosions. The cube still pops which is frustrating, does anyone else's pop? if it does, what core do you have?
Thinking of switching over to the Fangshi core to try and resolve this.
radmin
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At the tension that feels the best mine twists corners and sometimes pops. If I tighten in it feels catchy and blah like lunhui or pangshi.
I still like it though.
I put some maru lube in it the other day and to my surprise it slowed down a bit. It's returned to it's fast state now that the maru lube has dried.
littlewing1208
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I glued my white DIY center pieces and it feels the same as my black DIY. It's a lot louder because my black one has 300+ solves on it
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