Breaking sub-30 on 3x3

Looking ahead is what I have the most trouble with. Any tips for that, or how to work on it?

And just got a 29.84 :)
 
Learning full PLL could definitely help you cut your times down by about 4-5 seconds and other than that just practice a lot and get a good cube and lube it.That is how you can perform algorithms faster and improve your Last Layer.But I reccomend you to do that after you get sub-30.WIth a 7-10 second Last Layer your F2L should be about 20 seconds.So the main thing you need to focus on right now is your F2L.Don't turn as fast as you can during F2L.Turn slowly and while you turn try looking for other F2L pairs you're going to solve next.You will actually notice that if you turn a bit slower your times will be faster.I know it's kind of weird,but it's true.Lookahead will not be easy for you the first time you try to do it.You really just have to practice it.Don't worry.No matter what happens,if you keep practicing,you WILL improve.;)
 
As for look ahead, one exercise you can try is to when you get to F2L look at the pair you want to solve then close your eyes and solve it. Do this for the remaining 3 pairs too and just practice that for a while, then the next step would be during your solves to force yourself not to look at the pair you are solving but look anywhere else on the cube so you can instantly start on the next pair when you finish the current one. I am sub 20 and I still don't follow this advice all the time but my most consistent good F2L solves come when I slow down and follow this method. Obviously with practice you will get better at knowing where to look and be able to predict orientation of corners and edges better but just start small and work your way up.
 
You know what? I was in the SAME situation as you, and I was about to start a thread JUST like this.

And I broke the sub 30 line and became a sub-30 solver, just WEEKS ago. I can still remember freshly how I did it.

Ignore the LL for now. Worry about it when you are a full sub-30 solver.
The F2l is what makes you improve and made the most help and difference to break sub-30. Practice your lookahead.

You might be asking "PPL ARE ASKING ME TO LOOKAHEAD, HOW??? WTF!?!?"
Turn slowly, this will allow you to look and stable your vision more so you will be able to recognize F2L pairs rather than a sudden cluster of colors.
Turn as slow as you want so you can recognize other pieces while doing your current pair SUB-consciously. How to do it sub-consciously? Practice and get used to your reaction to F2L cases.

Practice more, learn solutions to new cases, learn even better solution to F2L cases.
This will give you a good F2L base of knowledge. Then you will be able to do it subconsciously.
When you can do it subconsciously, you are technically able to do lookahead, just try to find other pieces while subconsciously executing current solution.
Practice the lookahead again and again
-----Done-----
 
Hey, I'm in a similar situation right now. Things I'm trying to practice right now to be constant sub-30:

F2L look-ahead
Less cube rotations during F2L
"Blind" cross to improve look-ahead

Slowly learning full OLL (I already know full PLL)
X-cross, well, sometimes

Good luck!
 
HeyCuber said:
Hey, I'm in a similar situation right now. Things I'm trying to practice right now to be constant sub-30:

F2L look-ahead
Less cube rotations during F2L
"Blind" cross to improve look-ahead

Slowly learning full OLL (I already know full PLL)
X-cross, well, sometimes

Good luck!
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Thats a lot to learn at once. I think you should mainly focus on BLD cross and F2L Look ahead. You can leave the rest till youre sub 20.
 
PandaCuber said:
Thats a lot to learn at once. I think you should mainly focus on BLD cross and F2L Look ahead. You can leave the rest till youre sub 20.
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Thank you. Although, I can't really practice all of that at once. But I really want to get OLL out of the way. I know about half OLL now.
 
Hmmm, I've been chasing sub-30 since 2008 and I can tell you from experience that there's more to being crap at speedcubing than can be remedied with repetition of the usual advice! If you haven't cracked it in by summer 2015 you are qualified to join my support group :D
 
MichaelErskine said:
Hmmm, I've been chasing sub-30 since 2008 and I can tell you from experience that there's more to being crap at speedcubing than can be remedied with repetition of the usual advice! If you haven't cracked it in by summer 2015 you are qualified to join my support group :D
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I recommend really trying to improve. For me it took 2 months to get full sub-30. For faz...well...I might estimate 2 weeks maybe?
 
i think fully learning all the plls is what got me sub-30
that plus realizing that faster is not better when you're doing f2l helped alot too

and practice is not to be underestimated =D

good luck :)
 
For me sub 30 just means not making any mistakes. Usually if anything goes wrong I go above 30.

As far as look ahead, if I go too slow, I have a hard time detaching from the pair I'm working on. If I go too fast its all a blur.
I do corner preference, which means when I see a corner, I try to find it's edge second. I don't look for corners. I wait until they move into sight then I kind of look for it's edge. F2l has to be in muscle memory for it to work.
 
blakedacuber said:
have you got any sub 30 avg:P? and how many OLL's and PLL's do you know?
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Hi Blake, I don't want to hijack Joe's thread but just to let you know, I've had countless sub 30 averages of 5 (but not in competition) and maybe about 40 sub 30 averages of 12, but I've never achieved a sub-30 average of 100 (the last one was about 33). My first sub-30 single was on Xmas day 2008. I've had full PLL for probably two years and I have enough OLLs to be getting along with! (I'm not at all adept at learning and retaining algorithms BTW). I'm living proof that some people just ain't got what it takes -- and yeah, I'm probably doing it wrong!
 
Maybe it would help to trick you brain back into learning/improving mode. There was a thread on this a while back.

Perhaps it would help to switch cube colors, black to white or white to black. Then go color neutral for a while. Just to get your brain off auto pilot. You can also try using a metronome and making one turn per click. The goal is to shake up your thinking.
 
Why can't I get sub 30?

Hi all !
I have an average of 45 sec and a best of 36 sec. But however hard I try, I cant get sub sec ( which is the stepping stone to my dream sub 20). I follow intuitive f2l and know 2 look oll and 2 look pll. I take-
26 sec to solve the f2l (8 sec to solve the cross)
10 sec to solve oll and 10 sec to solve pll

Should I learn full pll??? Is my cross slow? Should i get better timings for oll and pll i.e. the last layer itself????
I dont solve the cube a lot number of times every day, my max. being around 100 solves. So I need to know my weak point rather than shuffling and solving the whole cube.
What am I doing wrong?:confused::confused:
 
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