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What are your views on religion?

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emolover said:
I don't say it. If anything I say excuse you then people look at me funny and I tell them to suck my ****.

I don't mind if people say bless you, but when they say it more then once that pisses the **** out of me. If someone is having an episode than I doubt they want to here "bless you" 20 freaking times.

I also hate how people say it just to talk(especially during tests). No offense but I hate the way girls and nice guys say it. The way they say it makes me so made because they say it like there a ****ing saint. I just want to yell, " Stop getting it off from saying 'bless you'!!!". It pisses me off.
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Dude, it's a saying. Get over it.
 
"Gesundheit" (German, meaning "health") is a nice secular response to a sneeze if saying "bless you" bothers you.
 
I used to say Geh... what Shelly said, but not many people say it here so it sounds weird, Later I realised it's just a phrase so now I say Bless You as it's polite. I don't think anyone now adays says it for it's supposed original purpose. Sneezing isn't the herald of death that it used to be:)
 
cheatmasterbw said:
Just a quick question for the atheists here:

Do you say "Bless You" when someone sneezes, or do people say it to you ever?
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Sure, why not? Bless you has essentially evolved to be an acknowledgement of someone sneezing. I don't go out of my way to say it but if someone I know sneezes, then why not.

ZamHalen said:
Sorry for double posting but since we're on this sort of subject I may as well ask.

This is a question for atheists.If there is a traditional prayer as being part of a non-religious group would you participate for the sake of tradition or would you find it offensive?
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I don't find it offensive, I just won't join in. I'll not bow my head or clasp my hands but I don't see the need to make a scene. If I'm forced to, however, by authority in spite of my non-religiousness then I will make a scene. Here in the UK it's much less of an issue though.
 
SpeedSolve said:
I'd like all the atheists here to read the book Heaven is For Real. I would love to see you guys explain those things.
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Just grabbing the first fantastical quote from the synopsis: "He survives and begins talking about being able to look down and see the doctor operating and his dad praying in the waiting room."
Outerbody experiences are really intersting, I only just learned about this recently. The way we see the world isn't a perfect representation as viewed by our eyes, but rather a image put together by our brain (admitedly almost entirely from what we see). Our eyes are actually very poor quality, only the very smallest part at the center has a 'high resolution', everything else is really blurry, but the way our brain puts the image together we don't really notice this. Also it hides from us bits where the image isn't complete... like the Blindspot.. it's really quite a large chunk (from the hole that the nerves pass through) of our vision but we don't notice it because our brain fills it in (like a really clever photoshop effect). Also Our brain has a really intereting sense of what our bodies look like and where we fit into the world around us. If this part of the brain is damanged (like by a stroke) then our image of ourself in the world comes out of sync... people who experience this have a feeling that there is someone else near them, and it's like they're always being followed. Which sounds horendous.
Now outerbody experiences are when the brain shifts the viewpoint, it lets you see it's constructed view of your surroundings, and if you turn back your brains version of what you look like. It's not a perfect representation of the world or you, but because your brain is in full control of what you're seeing it never feels like it's not real. It's supposed to be very convincing. There is a perfect test to prove that you're not actually leaving your body though... put a random playing card on top of a wardrobe or somewhere in the room and in an outerbody experience try to see what it is. It's completely impossible. Neurologists understanding of outerbody experiences is so complete that they can actually be induced with drugs or with electric currents. I though that was amazing, I had no idea they were so well understood.

Key point is our brain has amazing control over how we see the world around us, it's very well understood. If a kid was having surgery and was near death (i.e. his brain started shutting down) it's entirely reasonable that his brain would start showing him some crazy s***, going in and out of conciousness he would definitely be having dreams. This sort of stuff is so well understood just by the normal funcions of the brain, there is absolutely no reason to propose supernatural explanations.
 
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I have a question that can apply to everyone:
If you were to switch to any religion at all but yours and similar to yours (Christian religion to Christian religion doesn't count), which would it be. State your current religion too.

I would go from atheist to Buddhist. I just like their teachings a lot compared to other religions. Although I would probably never switch over in the first place. But this is if I had to do something else.
 
I would prefer Confucianism, but I thought it was more of a philosophy.
 
Godmil said:
Just grabbing the first fantastical quote from the synopsis: "He survives and begins talking about being able to look down and see the doctor operating and his dad praying in the waiting room."
Outerbody experiences are really intersting, I only just learned about this recently. The way we see the world isn't a perfect representation as viewed by our eyes, but rather a image put together by our brain (admitedly almost entirely from what we see). Our eyes are actually very poor quality, only the very smallest part at the center has a 'high resolution', everything else is really blurry, but the way our brain puts the image together we don't really notice this. Also it hides from us bits where the image isn't complete... like the Blindspot.. it's really quite a large chunk (from the hole that the nerves pass through) of our vision but we don't notice it because our brain fills it in (like a really clever photoshop effect). Also Our brain has a really intereting sense of what our bodies look like and where we fit into the world around us. If this part of the brain is damanged (like by a stroke) then our image of ourself in the world comes out of sync... people who experience this have a feeling that there is someone else near them, and it's like they're always being followed. Which sounds horendous.
Now outerbody experiences are when the brain shifts the viewpoint, it lets you see it's constructed view of your surroundings, and if you turn back your brains version of what you look like. It's not a perfect representation of the world or you, but because your brain is in full control of what you're seeing it never feels like it's not real. It's supposed to be very convincing. There is a perfect test to prove that you're not actually leaving your body though... put a random playing card on top of a wardrobe or somewhere in the room and in an outerbody experience try to see what it is. It's completely impossible. Neurologists understanding of outerbody experiences is so complete that they can actually be induced with drugs or with electric currents. I though that was amazing, I had no idea they were so well understood.

Key point is our brain has amazing control over how we see the world around us, it's very well understood. If a kid was having surgery and was near death (i.e. his brain started shutting down) it's entirely reasonable that his brain would start showing him some crazy s***, going in and out of conciousness he would definitely be having dreams. This sort of stuff is so well understood just by the normal funcions of the brain, there is absolutely no reason to propose supernatural explanations.
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Alright, but explain how Colton (name of the kid) saw his father's father when he [supposedly]* went to Heaven. Colton had never seen or heard of his father's father, and when he came back from Heaven, he asked his father about 'Pops', which is what Colton's father called him. Also, explain how Colton met his big sister in Heaven, who had been miscarriaged before Colton was even born. Colton's parents never told him about his big sister, fearing he would not understand.



*I say this for those who would end up probably correcting me. I truly believe he went to Heaven.
 
The only things from religion I despise are putting their preaches/rants on TV channels every Sunday or for something good happening and hearing "thank God". I can't stand it for serious subjects, but when it comes to sarcasm, I use it all the time.
 
SpeedSolve said:
Alright, but explain how Colton (name of the kid) saw his father's father when he [supposedly]* went to Heaven. Colton had never seen or heard of his father's father, and when he came back from Heaven, he asked his father about 'Pops', which is what Colton's father called him. Also, explain how Colton met his big sister in Heaven, who had been miscarriaged before Colton was even born. Colton's parents never told him about his big sister, fearing he would not understand.



*I say this for those who would end up probably correcting me. I truly believe he went to Heaven.
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Yeah there's no way the accounts of a 4 year old could have been misconstrued.

Also, personal experiences are very very unconvincing when it comes to religious debates. Every single religion has had followers that have had personal experiences with their god(s), and all religions can't be right. (You can all be wrong though.)
 
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