Should a beginner start with the best cube available?

[Bapao]

http://www.pickegg.com/wholesale/dayan5-zhanchi-3x3x3-magic-cube-puzzle-game-toy.html
89 cents over but close enough

20$ is a hefty price for a Rubiks 3x3x3. Wonder why they're so expensive where you're situated...

 

[Yuxuibbs]

20$ is a hefty price for a Rubiks 3x3x3. Wonder why they're so expensive where you're situated...

i found one that was that much in a store. the wal mart here sells it for 11 bucks and walgreens is like 15 bucks, guess i found the overpriced one

 

[Shamankian]

Certain shops in Denmark sells them for... wait for it... around 27 dollars... Ye, that's right. Damn expensive. So not every country has the same price for the cube

 

[Bapao]

Certain shops in Denmark sells them for... wait for it... around 27 dollars... Ye, that's right. Damn expensive. So not every country has the same price for the cube

Sucks. Still wondering they're so expensive else where though. I can't recall the economy in Denmark being that good/bad...

 

[insane569]

it says best cube available
i wouldnt go straight to a guhong or dayan
i would recommend a GH 1 or 2 but 45 degree corner cutting isnt needed at the early stages neither is crazy turn speed
GHs are like storeboughts with better turning and a little more corner cutting so i would recommend that for a begginer and not a zhanchi or guhong

 

[Bapao]

it says best cube available
i wouldnt go straight to a guhong or dayan
i would recommend a GH 1 or 2 but 45 degree corner cutting isnt needed at the early stages neither is crazy turn speed
GHs are like storeboughts with better turning and a little more corner cutting so i would recommend that for a begginer and not a zhanchi or guhong

Yeah, although Guitar Hero is better than Guitar Hero II IMO. Tsss...Beginners, just get a ZhanChi right now. And then practice with it until you no longer have a finger print. You'll be fine. Trust me.

 

[aaronb]

WWFD?

What I think is, people will eventually move to a good cube, right? Well when they move to the fast cube, they will start to develop the fast turning/low-look-ahead habbits, if they are not used to the speed and smoothness. In the end, I think it is a matter of people trying to slow down and look-ahed wether they start with a good cube, or gradually move in to one.

Edit: Basically my point is, it is up to the cuber to slow down and look-ahead. If using a slow cube helps them, then they can go ahead and use it. But I still think it is up to the cuber to force themselves to slow down.

 

[HelpCube]

WWFD?

What I think is, people will eventually move to a good cube, right? Well when they move to the fast cube, they will start to develop the fast turning/low-look-ahead habbits, if they are not used to the speed and smoothness. In the end, I think it is a matter of people trying to slow down and look-ahed wether they start with a good cube, or gradually move in to one.

^^This. I mean seriously. Why do batters in baseball use a donut when practicing? Because its harder, and it makes it super easy when they go to a bat without a donut on it.

 

[uberCuber]

I still strongly believe that my lookahead is as good as it currently is because of not using the fastest possible cube I can get. This applies to both 3x3 and bigcubes.

 

[TheCubeMaster5000]

I started with a Rubik's Brand when I was a beginner. And in case you forgot how to correctly spell it; B-E-G-I-N-N-E-R. Then I got a type idunno, then a type c, then a Haiyan, and then a Guhong and a LingYun.

I WISH that I would have had a LingYun all along. I should have never had all of those other cubes. The fact that I had so many different cubes is probably one of the reasons why it took me so long to get sub-30 AND sub-20.
Get the best quality cube you can get your hands on.
If you're serious about cubing then you can still have good lookahaead, accuracy, and execution with a good cube.

 

[insane569]

it seems people want everyone to learn how to solve using a dayan
most learn how to on a storebought and you can easily get a sub 1 minute solve
afteryou sub 1 i would recommend you get another cube and then learn finger tricks along with lookahead
and remember dayans arent the only cube out there there is also alpha GHOST HAND and alot more brands so dont go
"dayan zhanchi is amazing get one"(person averages 1:30) cause it might not make a difference until you ACTUALLY need corner cutting and U4 abilities
its like learning how to drive in a buggati veyron instead of a toyota corolla
you will want to turn quick but then you will not learn your lookahead

 

[aaronb]

its like learning how to drive in a buggati veyron instead of a toyota corolla
you will want to turn quick but then you will not learn your lookahead

If you step into a Bugatti Veyron as your first car, it is your responsibility to slow down, and not try to go stupidly fast. You should know that going as fast as possible in your first good car, isn't going to help you become a better driving; but it is okay to have the stupidly fast car, as long as you gradually get used to the speed. This is what I meant by, it is up to the cuber to slow down and look-ahead.

 

[Godmil]

For the comments about how you should start on poor cubes so that when you switch you appreciate it more... Would you also suggest beginners learn their OLL and PLL algs from Fridrich's site, so that when they learn better algs later they'll appreciate them more?

 

[aaronb]

For the comments about how you should start on poor cubes so that when you switch you appreciate it more... Would you also suggest beginners learn their OLL and PLL algs from Fridrich's site, so that when they learn better algs later they'll appreciate them more?

But, if you start with the best algorithms, you become sloppy, and develop bad fingertricks. You should start with Jessica Fridrich's algorithms, so you can understand them better.

 

[CubeLTD]

But, if you start with the best algorithms, you become sloppy, and develop bad fingertricks. You should start with Jessica Fridrich's algorithms, so you can understand them better.

Make no sense.

 

[aaronb]

Make no sense.

I was being sarcastic. I was agreeing with Godmil, saying starting with the best cubes is like starting with the best algorithms.

 

[Edward]

Should a beginner start with the best cube....

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT CUBE YOU START WITH

 

[The Bloody Talon]

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT CUBE YOU START WITH

why me? :confused:

 

[buelercuber]

You should learn how to turn a cube really accurate, because i know that my rubiks brand is much tighter then my lunhui, so if your fingers are used to the looseness, you aren't a good cuber. cubing isn't about speed, it's about accuracy and precision.

so to answer your question, no i think that new cubers shouldn't use the newest cube.

 

[The Bloody Talon]

You should learn how to turn a cube really accurate, because i know that my rubiks brand is much tighter then my lunhui, so if your fingers are used to the looseness, you aren't a good cuber. cubing isn't about speed, it's about accuracy and precision.

so to answer your question, no i think that new cubers shouldn't use the newest cube.

i agree that we should learn to turn the cube accurately.. :tu
but why would someone practice with a tighter cube if in the end, he/she will use a "loose" cube?
and.. I think "speed" is still important in speedcubing.