F2L: (Rapid 2nd-Gen insertion w/ rotation) vs (F/B F2L styles)

[~Phoenix Death~]

I would do quick 2nd gen. F and B require shifting my hand position.

 

[spyr0th3dr4g0n]

When I hold it at the angle shown, F' U' F is pretty much the same as using L' U' L, as I would turn the cube for either, and my left hand does al the work.

 

[Akuma]

I would use F' U' F quite simply because it allows better lookahead for OLL

 

[AustinReed]

I would use F' U' F quite simply because it allows better lookahead for OLL

Not necessarily. If anything, L' U' L would give you better lookahead in most cases.

 

[EnterPseudonym]

Yeah, but they all do the exact same thing and have the exact same result. It isn't like there is a difference between them, they're all just joining a pair the same way.

Edit: Also, doing F' U' F does NOT affect edge orientation.

F' U' F does affect orientation. The FR and UL edges are bad.

Edit: Actually while solving EO for ZZ, F' U' F could be used to solve the last two bad edges. Hence it does affect EO.

 

[uberCuber]

F' U' F does affect orientation. The FR and UL edges are bad.

Edit: Actually while solving EO for ZZ, F' U' F could be used to solve the last two bad edges. Hence it does affect EO.

Please show me to take a solved cube and, with <F,U>, generate a last layer case in which the edges are not oriented.

 

[Jorghi]

Doing only <F,U> doesn't make a case in which all the last layer edges are not oriented.
But it does change edge orientation. Just like all of the algorithms in the poll.

 

[uberCuber]

Doing F/B reverses the orientation of the edges specifically on that face.

That's because you're defining edge orientation in terms of an <R,U,L,D,F2,B2> moveset.

 

[EnterPseudonym]

Please show me to take a solved cube and, with <F,U>, generate a last layer case in which the edges are not oriented.

Perform the trigger 3 times with green/blue front and white/yellow up. See how the two edges I mentioned are both L/R colors? That means they are not oriented. There for, performing the trigger once more will orient those edges.

Another way to tell that the edges are bad, is that you can't solve them without using a F/B turn.

 

[uberCuber]

Perform the trigger 3 times with green/blue front and white/yellow up. See how the two edges I mentioned are both L/R colors? That means they are not oriented. There for, performing the trigger once more will orient those edges.

Another way to tell that the edges are bad, is that you can't solve them without using a F/B turn.

Read my above post. And believe me I understand ZZ perfectly well thank you.

 

[EnterPseudonym]

Read my above post. And believe me I understand ZZ perfectly well thank you.

And that's the move set that I would solve F2L with. My point is perfectly valid. However, it seems you want to argue semantics, which i will not.

 

[Jorghi]

^ Yeah this uberCuber guy always trys to start fights and bends his interpretation to hide failure xD
and for me...

400: 56, 800: 2:06, 1600: 4:43

But I still have 2 more years xD

 

[EnterPseudonym]

^ Yeah this uberCuber guy always trys to start fights and bends his interpretation to hide failure xD
and for me...

400: 56, 800: 2:06, 1600: 4:43

But I still have 2 more years xD

His point was valid aswell, but I basically said that F' U' F does affect EO in ZZ, he replied that it doesn't affect EO at all, which it doesn't.

Nice, I'm going to start collegiate running here in august.

 

[cuberkid10]

Depending on what F2L pair that I saw next, I'd do the first 2.

 

[MTGjumper]

^ Yeah this uberCuber guy always trys to start fights and bends his interpretation to hide failure xD

And you know all about failure, right?

Two more years until what?

 

[JyH]

^ Yeah this uberCuber guy always trys to start fights and bends his interpretation to hide failure xD
and for me...

400: 56, 800: 2:06, 1600: 4:43

But I still have 2 more years xD

No, he points out mistakes and proves his point. You on the other hand, make useless threads about your "ideas" that really are pointless, and then try to cover up your insecurity by saying "lol" and other things relating to that.

EDIT: lol, just had to show this:

Spoiler

 

[waffle=ijm]

You sir need to understand the cube before saying people don't know ****.

 

[MTGjumper]

Anyway, isn't 2nd gen a 4x4 edge pairing method?

 

[EnterPseudonym]

Anyway, isn't 2nd gen a 4x4 edge pairing method?

It's using only two side to accomplish something. such as <F,U>.

 

[uberCuber]

It's using only two side to accomplish something. such as <F,U>.

More like 2-gen lulz