Dayan 5 ZhanChi testing product prototype version

[gasmus]

I didnt say 'POM' because I dont have a POM guhong. I've always ordered my cubes from Lightake(exactly the same cubes) and my more recent ones definitely have harder plastic, so I assumed they were changed. Also I got 2 of these http://www.witeden.com/goods.php?id=140 with my ZhanChis. "Material:ABS" and they suck just like the rest of the newer guhongs...

I'm not really sure how I can explain lag, but the older ones lagged too until they were broken in a little bit. Also I used maru lube, not silicone spray.

 

[daniel0731ex]

well, as i explained before, harder plastic = more sensitive to imperfections. That's why the POM ones are not as smooth as the regular Guhong.

 

[daniel0731ex]

I didnt say 'POM' because I dont have a POM guhong. I've always ordered my cubes from Lightake(exactly the same cubes) and my more recent ones definitely have harder plastic, so I assumed they were changed. Also I got 2 of these http://www.witeden.com/goods.php?id=140 with my ZhanChis. "Material:ABS" and they suck just like the rest of the newer guhongs...

I'm not really sure how I can explain lag, but the older ones lagged too until they were broken in a little bit. Also I used maru lube, not silicone spray.

Hmm, that's interesting. Well it's true that the Old Aloha-I cubes have changed several times (I think there were at least 4 different versions), and it might also be that DaQing Bao is experimenting with different materials. In any cases, as long as you are not using silicone sprays then it's OK.

As for the lag, just try to describe it instead of explaining. Make comparisons with something else.

 

[Tim Major]

Well around December last year, the GuHongs now had DaYan-2 Guhong on the box.
The core changed, and it seems to me the weight changed. They're still awesome but they fixed some glitches with the core, but maybe the plastic changed.

 

[Sin-H]

hmm, still, POM is obviously not the perfect material for people who like it smooth - like Breandan and me.

 

[sa11297]

what is the shipping cost from witeden?

 

[Bapao]

I got the last 2 black ones, sorry but might be up for selling one if you're interested.

The best way I can describe this cube is an exact cross between a GuHong and a Lingyun. Which makes it somewhere between the LingYun(which I hate) and the GuHong in terms of performance.

So far I've done ~500 solves and first impressions of the cube are pretty good. It turns fast like the GuHong, has rounded edges(GuHong feels very sharp), its very accurate, and it NEVER pops. Absolutely 100% never ever ever. I even set it to an extremely loose tension and still just couldnt get it to pop.

Overall, there isnt really much wrong with this cube, I just dont like it as much as the GuHong, even the crappy newer ones. But if you really like the LingYun and want one which doesnt pop, turns much faster and doesnt feel so heavy then this is probably the cube for you.

I just really wish that Dayan would change the GuHongs back to how they were when they first came out... then all this fishing for new cubes would be completely unnecessary.

Would you mind elaborating why you hate the LingYun? Personal preference is probably key, but aside from popping, what else is there to fault?

 

[daniel0731ex]

hmm, still, POM is obviously not the perfect material for people who like it smooth - like Breandan and me.

unless the cube is engineered by Germans, that is.

ABS is popular because they do not shrink as much coming out of the molds, and are easy to break in. The only con is that it is not very durable and could wear out relatively quickly. POM is definitely superior if engineered right.

 

[Escher]

@daniel0743897234978234ex: You do realise that you arguing about what makes a cube 'better' with Stefan and Breandan?

Technically 'superior' =/= better.

 

[r_517]

i don't have much knowledge with plastics. just to mention, my Zhan Chi had popped 6 times out of all my 2000 solves with it

 

[cycle]

i'd prefer it if those with prototype zhan chis would call it a prototype. someone might read this conversation at a later date when the final zhan chi are out and then...confusion...chaos...armageddon. u heard it here first.

 

[gasmus]

What?! Is it a loose tension?

I must have done almost 3000 and still no pop. not even close.

Edit: Prototype is implied by the title of the thread...

 

[Radu]

I didnt say 'POM' because I dont have a POM guhong. I've always ordered my cubes from Lightake(exactly the same cubes) and my more recent ones definitely have harder plastic, so I assumed they were changed. Also I got 2 of these http://www.witeden.com/goods.php?id=140 with my ZhanChis. "Material:ABS" and they suck just like the rest of the newer guhongs...

I'm not really sure how I can explain lag, but the older ones lagged too until they were broken in a little bit. Also I used maru lube, not silicone spray.

I thought I'm the only one who noticed that the first versions of GuHong are better (much better) than the new ones. I'm happy I still have 2-3 from that period left in a corner. When I go to test them, they really feel different from the new ones.

 

[Tim Major]

What?! Is it a loose tension?

I must have done almost 3000 and still no pop. not even close.

Edit: Prototype is implied by the title of the thread...

Could I buy one? Pm me, if you will.

 

[gasmus]

Would you mind elaborating why you hate the LingYun? Personal preference is probably key, but aside from popping, what else is there to fault?

Its just very heavy and slow. Not a good cube. My general average with mine was almost 2 secs slower than normal, before I gave it away.

I thought I'm the only one who noticed that the first versions of GuHong are better (much better) than the new ones. I'm happy I still have 2-3 from that period left in a corner. When I go to test them, they really feel different from the new ones.

I dont suppose you'd be willing to sell me one would you?^^ I really envy you, treasure those cubes!

Could I buy one? Pm me, if you will.

I havent decided yet whether to sell one or not. Remind me in a week or so and we'll see

 

[Shamankian]

I received mine in the mail today. I haven't used it much yet, I've spent most of today cleaning it and lubing it with Lubix, BUT! I prefer it over my GuHong because of the speed. Also it cuts 3/4 reverse (maybe a tad more) and like 40 degrees normal, so reverse is better than the GuHong but normal is worse. Then again, who needs 45+ degrees cornercutting... Also with the tension I got my ZhanChi it CANNOT pop. Very clever design.
All of this is MY opinion so don't go "blablabla you are wrong because I think something else lulz".

Also, I changed the normal core to a Maru core.



/Kian

 

[Pixel 6]

I'm interested in buying one off of someone here if anyone cares to part with it...

=]

- Pixel -

 

[Radu]

I dont suppose you'd be willing to sell me one would you?^^ I really envy you, treasure those cubes!

I've just seen your post today. I'll see what I can do . Shipping is not that cheap to UK. I have to make some order in the cube corner with accesories and see the "status" of my cubes. Maybe if you come at the Romanian Open in May it will be easier. http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?28300-Romanian-Open-2011

 

[RTh]

BTW, when will the final version come out?

Also, where could I get one of those prototype cubes? Witeden is out of stock.

 

[notluK]

BTW, when will the final version come out?

Also, where could I get one of those prototype cubes? Witeden is out of stock.

Same here, I'd really like to pick up a prototype. I was too slow for the Witeden ones. :cry: