Protecting a youtube video

[David Zemdegs]

Hi,
As you might expect there is growing interest in Faz's 6.77 wr and media requests coming our way. Faz deserves earning the little bit he gets when people view his 6.77 on his youtube channel. I know its illegal to download youtube videos (although people are bound to do it with freely available software). I did notice that there is an option not to allow embeds - should we enable that option? And if we find a website that appears to have downloaded his video is there anything we can do?

Thanks

 

[StachuK1992]

Not allowing to embed videos will not help you.

The .flv files (or otherwise if you're using HTML5) can be easily downloaded if your video is public, and that's final.


I'm not sure about the legalities of the situation; someone else could better answer that question.
-statue

 

[Daniel Wu]

Embeds still give the original video view counts on youtube so that wouldn't really do anything. As far as I know, there is no way to prevent it from being downloaded.

 

[TK 421]

i can download any u tube vid file even if you protect it

i'm in the process of doing that as we speak

 

[Zarxrax]

There's nothing illegal about downloading a youtube video, and there's not really anything you can do about it.
If someone is republishing the video without permission, you can file a DMCA takedown notice (its an american thing, since your australian there may be nothing you can do), but this is more trouble than it's worth, and you honestly aren't going to gain anything by doing it. Asking someone nicely to take something down is likely to get you further.

 

[David Zemdegs]

Thanks for all your replies. I suspected as much. So disallowing embedding doesnt really do anything? I think next time we may have to heavily watermark it.

 

[teller]

What are they going to do, post it on YouTube? Your version is the canonical one, and YouTube knows this via it's ranking algorithms. I don't really think you have anything to worry about.

If the media wants to interview Feliks, he cannot be cloned so easily.

 

[BigSams]

You shouldn't have uploaded to youtube in the first place if you wanted to make money off of it. It's too late now because there are probably hundreds of copies out there. For next time, I'd think you should contact the tv channels/other video media, get them to sign a contract saying only they will use the vid and sell them the vid. After the hype dies down, upload to youtube.

 

[Zarxrax]

You shouldn't have uploaded to youtube in the first place if you wanted to make money off of it. It's too late now because there are probably hundreds of copies out there. For next time, I'd think you should contact the tv channels/other video media, get them to sign a contract saying only they will use the vid and sell them the vid. After the hype dies down, upload to youtube.

It's not like he can prevent other people from filming it and uploading their own copy.

 

[teller]

You shouldn't have uploaded to youtube in the first place if you wanted to make money off of it. It's too late now because there are probably hundreds of copies out there. For next time, I'd think you should contact the tv channels/other video media, get them to sign a contract saying only they will use the vid and sell them the vid. After the hype dies down, upload to youtube.

Nonsense...the YouTube video is the fastest, cheapest way to build publicity for Feliks. Embrace it.

 

[EricReese]

While youtube doesnt let you download their videos, you still can. Add the word "kiss" in the URL and it takes u to a site that does. for example (fake url here) if you had http://www.youtube.com/watch=2342342 then just add kiss like so:

http://www.kissyoutube.com/watch=2342342 and it lets you download it. Nothin you can do there champ

 

[David Zemdegs]

Nonsense...the YouTube video is the fastest, cheapest way to build publicity for Feliks. Embrace it.

I would agree. What we are also getting from very large online media companies is the offer of doing a story on Faz but having to sign a contract which gives them the exclusive rights to display and distribute the video to whomever they want. This is where I have put my foot down.

 

[Zarxrax]

I would agree. What we are also getting from very large online media companies is the offer of doing a story on Faz but having to sign a contract which gives them the exclusive rights to display and distribute the video to whomever they want. This is where I have put my foot down.

Well, if some company wants to pay money for the rights to the video, give them the rights. If someone else is publishing the video without permission, then it becomes the company's problem, not yours

 

[David Zemdegs]

Well, if some company wants to pay money for the rights to the video, give them the rights. If someone else is publishing the video without permission, then it becomes the company's problem, not yours

Heres the rub - they dont want to pay a thing for it....

 

[LewisJ]

Well, if some company wants to pay money for the rights to the video, give them the rights. If someone else is publishing the video without permission, then it becomes the company's problem, not yours

Notice the word exclusive in "exclusive rights." Selling (or in this case, giving away) the exclusive rights may even forbid faz from having the video on his own youtube channel!

 

[Dene]

Oh man. You should try and get some money for that vid. And make sure my Hi-5 gets in there


(I knew it would pay off eventually ).

 

[Lucas Garron]

You have absolutely no way to stop people from downloading it on YouTube. The best would be to focus on getting money from those who are willing to pay.

Faz can become a YouTube partner and make money from ads (which still work in embeds, note; I would personally recommend against disabling embeds, else people will of course get around it). I think there's also an option to offer a download on the page for $1.
Any duplicate uploaded videos are clearly illegal, though they might not be easy to challenge.

However, you can try to interest documentary-makers, etc. in using the video for their productions, for which they *have* to pay you. I recommend you talk to Dan Dzoan and Tyson about this.

You might also want to ask Erik what he did to his channel and video description to profit from it.

 

[maxiovane]

I dont think is illegal, actually I can do it with firefox

 

[StachuK1992]

I dont think is illegal, actually I can do it with firefox

There are a lot of illegal things you can do with a web browser...

 

[EricReese]

There are a lot of illegal things you can do with a web browser...

Yea but its actually a plugin that you download from Firefox's site that allows you to download youtube videos (unless im mistaken) and I doubt that Firefox would allow that plugin on their site unless it was legal

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