Impact of color neutrality.

[BigSams]

I'm colour neutral with the exception of 5 colours

A lot of your comments have been as useless as Kirjava's recently. Just saying. Though my comment now is just as pointless =/ let's all use sarcasm and criticism more constructively.

 

[waffle=ijm]

:3
there's a method to my madness. and it involves cookies

 

[RyanReese09]

:3
there's a method to my madness. and it involves cookies

NO WAFFOS?

 

[CubesOfTheWorld]

A lot of your comments have been as useless as Kirjava's recently. Just saying. Though my comment now is just as pointless =/ let's all use sarcasm and criticism more constructively.

I wouldn't be talking to waffo like that. He just adds a nice touch of humor to the forums.

 

[teller]

Push through man! It only hurts for a second. After that you can't realise why you'd want to stay with one color.

@Edward: Thank you, my friend...yes...I will do it!

@Everyone else: The side-debate about the benefits of CN are hilarious...do some block building and you'll start to realize just how much inspection you are missing! Your best champions learned some ~Petrus and perceive things you cannot.

 

[Hadley4000]

I think there will be a lot more CN solvers, particularly those who already aren't sub-10. A lot of people tend to just follow every move of the WR holders. Any WR holder could start using store cubes and other people would do it.

 

[Dene]

Why the hell are you guys arguing about this subject?

You are clearly new around here.

 

[Zane_C]

I've thought a few times about becoming colour neutral, but at my current speed ~15, I think green and blue cross will do the trick.

 

[EricReese]

You are clearly new around here.

or i think ryan is dumb for getting so mad about this

 

[blakedacuber]

honestly i think if its an extremel easy cross go for it other wise i dont think it would make a big impact

 

[Cyrus C.]

Anyone "can be colour neutral". It's all about getting very fast with any starting orientation and having no significant difference in your times based on which color's "start" you decide to go with.

Well, yea, I meant I can get the same times.

 

[RyanReese09]

or i think ryan is dumb for getting so mad about this

I'm not getting mad about this at all? :fp

 

[brunson]

I think there will be a lot more CN solvers, particularly those who already aren't sub-10. A lot of people tend to just follow every move of the WR holders. Any WR holder could start using store cubes and other people would do it.

I think the main thing to come out of it is that we can finally oust the old argument that CN is slower. That used to come up all the time when most of the top ten in 3x3 were one color cross or ON. I don't think CN is necessarily harder than learning single color cross, but I know it took longer for me to become as adept at cross than a lot of the single color solvers I've seen here.

Looking at Lars' cross study, sure, you save fewer than two moves *on average*, but you're three times as likely to get a sub-six move cross and five times more likely to get a four or fewer move cross. And in the unlikely event of getting a zero, one or two move cross, there's only a 1 in six change that it will be useful to a single color solver.

It's why I've referred to it as "opportunistically advantageous" in the past. The likelihood of it paying of is low, but when it does it's pretty awesome. Which reminds me, I need to get way better at xcross.

 

[theace]

I decided to try out some CN. Killed all my times. I.ve been at it ems a couple of days now. I average at around 25 with white. While trying to go cn, i'm above 50 on an average and now, my brain'r so bloody scrambled that my white's around 35 too! Oll is unaffected and pll has a recognition that's a tad bit longer. F2l in cn solve is bloody crazy!

Frankly, even if you get the cross in one move, what's the point if your f2l is virtually going to double?

So how do you do the xcross anyway, any video tuts?

 

[rowehessler]

I think if someone has an average over a second faster than everyone else, what he's doing obviously seems worth it.

 

[Edward]

I decided to try out some CN. Killed all my times. I.ve been at it ems a couple of days now. I average at around 25 with white. While trying to go cn, i'm above 50 on an average and now, my brain'r so bloody scrambled that my white's around 35 too! Oll is unaffected and pll has a recognition that's a tad bit longer. F2l in cn solve is bloody crazy!

Frankly, even if you get the cross in one move, what's the point if your f2l is virtually going to double?

So how do you do the xcross anyway, any video tuts?

It'll take more than a week to truly adjust

 

[FatBoyXPC]

I think if someone has an average over a second faster than everyone else, what he's doing obviously seems worth it.

Well Rowe, I think you can agree what you've got on us is a lot more than just color neutrality TPS alone you've got so many of us blown out of the water! Rowe, would you do the favor of doing a white/yellow cross average of 12 and show us the results?

SO feliks' f2l would be twice as fast if he only used one color?

I clearly see your point here, but man, I don't even want to think about how fast you two would be with an f2l twice as fast :/

 

[rowehessler]

I decided to try out some CN. Killed all my times. I.ve been at it ems a couple of days now. I average at around 25 with white. While trying to go cn, i'm above 50 on an average and now, my brain'r so bloody scrambled that my white's around 35 too! Oll is unaffected and pll has a recognition that's a tad bit longer. F2l in cn solve is bloody crazy!

Frankly, even if you get the cross in one move, what's the point if your f2l is virtually going to double?

So how do you do the xcross anyway, any video tuts?

A couple of days.....what were you expecting? Picking it up and being the same as you are with one color without any practice? it takes years to develop CN. And "f2l is virtually double" with CN huh? SO feliks' f2l would be twice as fast if he only used one color?

 

[Edward]

Well Rowe, I think you can agree what you've got on us is a lot more than just color neutrality TPS alone you've got so many of us blown out of the water! Rowe, would you do the favor of doing a white/yellow cross average of 12 and show us the results?

They won't be different from his usual average. He's color neutral.

 

[FatBoyXPC]

That was the point!