faster methods

[zdavidli]

Hi guys,
ive been cubing using the beginners method and i can get around 1:05 each solve. i want to get faster but dont know anywhere to get a tutorial. can you guys tell me where i should go for a faster method?

 

[StachuK1992]

http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Road_to_Sub-15_Second_Averages

-statue

 

[waffle=ijm]

Alternatively. Roux

 

[y3k9]

Fridrich would probably suit you. Roux, petrus, zz, and all that other stuff are more advanced, that you should learn later.

 

[Inf3rn0]

Fridrich would probably suit you. Roux, petrus, zz, and all that other stuff are more advanced, that you should learn later.

More advanced? Really?

 

[waffle=ijm]

more advanced?
pfft. sure block building will take a while to get used to but it isn't that "advanced". Same with Fridrich F2L. Blocks are just another technique that you can compare to F2L. You have F2L strategies that are "advanced" Blocks are different strategies that are just as "advanced."

I think Beginner Roux is easier and faster than most "intermediate" methods (like intuitive F2L and 3LLL I would consider intermediate). Kirjava's done sub-15 avg using only 2 algs. I've gotten sub-16 using only 9 algs. It's not advanced, it's just a different approach.

 

[y3k9]

More advanced? Really?

Well... Fridrich is simpler.

 

[souljahsu]

The edge orientation is very hard to get use to, especially for a beginner in my opinion. But it's extremely easy once you get used to it.

 

[Kenneth]

Well... Fridrich is simpler.

Simpler? Really?

Roux uses 42 CLL, 9 EO and 3 EP, total 54 algs.
Petrus using COLL have 42 COLL and 5 EPLL, total 47.

 

[irontwig]

Kenneth: Having 3-4 move "algs" in a list of what one must memorize hardly makes sense, you might as well list Petrus' EO "algs".

 

[Kenneth]

Well, Roux you can recog the EO easily and use pure brute force, Petrus are having many more cases so it would be hard to recog like that. It is not exactly the same thing. But sure, you can do Roux EO using pure intuition too.

 

[splinteh]

The transition to Fridrich will be easier.

 

[bluedasher]

I would go with learning either Petrus, Fridrich, or Roux. Those are all very fast methods!

 

[JonnyWhoopes]

The transition to Fridrich will be easier.

Well then, I suppose that this all depends on which he values more. Ease of transition, or speed.

 

[bluedasher]

Well then, I suppose that this all depends on which he values more. Ease of transition, or speed.

Well, Fridrich is a very fast method...

 

[Michiel van der Blonk]

if he's doing 4 look LL without keyhole he should start on KeyHole and 3 look LL. That will shave off enough seconds. If he's already doing that, well yes, CFOP.

 

[EricReese]

I recommend Roux

 

[JonnyWhoopes]

Well, Fridrich is a very fast method...

I think Beginner Roux is easier and faster than most "intermediate" methods (like intuitive F2L and 3LLL I would consider intermediate). Kirjava's done sub-15 avg using only 2 algs. I've gotten sub-16 using only 9 algs. It's not advanced, it's just a different approach.

I'm assuming that he wouldn't learn Algorithmic optimal F2L yet, or full OLL and full PLL. Thus... Roux is faster.

 

[y3k9]

Ok, first he has to decide what last layer method to use, I recommend oll and pll (2 or 3 look). Then he has to decide what 1st and 2nd layer method (I tryed to word that so that I'm not saying f2l) he wants to use (I would recommend f2l or blockbuilding). And then he has his method right there.

Notice I wasn't being biased to fridrich.^^

 

[Rpotts]

^yes you were, you assumed he had to complete the f2l then complete the LL in a number of looks. Sounds pretty much like fridrich.