Cubers you should have heard of

[Ranzha]

I didn't know of four of 'em.
I think I did well.

 

[Mr.Toad]

You should add Feliks.

Oh, and "Interview with Feliks Zemdegs" will be fantastic.

 

[Tim Major]

You should add Feliks.

Oh, and "Interview with Feliks Zemdegs" will be fantastic.

Everyone knows Faz, he's like the new Yu. But the interview, yeah! but I doubt he'd want to. He might.

 

[Faz]

EDITED out. Worded badly, gave the wrong impression.

 

[DavidWoner]

So "the past year" is relevant to this thread?

It's relevant to your statement that nobody cares about 2x2. Before Rowe (and Edouard to some extent), Lukasz was synonymous with 2x2 solving. All these people who have recently taken interest in 2x2 would do well to know that. If 5x5BLD becomes extremely popular in the future, would you say that there is no reason to mention Chris Hardwick?

I think it would be an insult to Mr. Hardwick to compare 2x2 to 5x5BLD.

I was comparing the popularity of the events, not the puzzles themselves. You should know better.

You say "all these people" who have taken an interest in 2x2, yet you only name one, and another possible. Naturally there are some more, such as yourself.

Wrong. I name zero. I was referring to all the random noobs who are deciding to actually learn real 2x2 methods and are actually practicing, instead of just using LBL.

But most people who do 2x2 only do it because it is an official event and because they want a decent ranking at it. Very few people have any strong interest in 2x2. Even those people that do have a large interest in it, such as yourself, have other events that they consider to be more important to themselves.

That's a rather lame argument, seeing as how it applies to many other official events, such as magics, OH, Feet, FM, pyraminx, or really most side events. I feel this way about 5x5, and to some extent, 3x3.

I'm pretty sure that no one cubes essentially solely for 2x2, in the way that you "cubed" essentially only for clock a year ago. (Sure you did other things, but clock was the only thing you determinedly focussed on).

Hmm as I recall, this clock-only phase lasted for 11 days, then I didn't touch it again until about 5 months later. I do this with lots of events, like when I did 4x4 for 6 hours a day. It's just how I practice.

Perhaps Rowe does consider 2x2 to be his die-hard event. But that is only one person.

I don't understand what die-hard solvers have to do with the general popularity of an event.

Oh and before you say "well one person is more than no-one", I think you ought to look up the word hyperbole.

Yes I am familiar with the use of hyperbole in arguments. Did you honestly think I would try to call you out on something like that?

 

[Dene]

So then, what is it to you that makes 2x2 a worthy official event? An event worth dedicating hours a day to, and something which you feel more people should do, because it is such a worthy event?

It's time that we shifted the burden of the proof to yourself seeing as you feel that this guy should be on the list.

 

[maggot]

Uhh, this thread is for people you should know, and umm, I think a fair few people know me. And I only hate interviews with stupid media.

on topic sortof. Heard of all of them except Dan Gosbee.

i think we be better off if noone knew you

 

[Ethan Rosen]

Oh, and "Interview with Feliks Zemdegs" will be fantastic.

Meh I have to disagree. All of the interviews now are with people who have been cubing for the while, contributed a lot to the community, and excel in something unique. Why break that streak?

 

[rowehessler]

Escher: Saying that 2x2 should no longer be an official event is an opinion not only held by myself, but by Tyson Mao himself. I don't see how it is an ignorant statement. It is a statement of the viability of the event, which is strongly lacking. It is an event based on luck. 2x2 single WR has already shown that. 2x2 average WR will eventually be the same.

So "the past year" is relevant to this thread?

It's relevant to your statement that nobody cares about 2x2. Before Rowe (and Edouard to some extent), Lukasz was synonymous with 2x2 solving. All these people who have recently taken interest in 2x2 would do well to know that. If 5x5BLD becomes extremely popular in the future, would you say that there is no reason to mention Chris Hardwick?

I think it would be an insult to Mr. Hardwick to compare 2x2 to 5x5BLD.

You say "all these people" who have taken an interest in 2x2, yet you only name one, and another possible. Naturally there are some more, such as yourself. But most people who do 2x2 only do it because it is an official event and because they want a decent ranking at it. Very few people have any strong interest in 2x2. Even those people that do have a large interest in it, such as yourself, have other events that they consider to be more important to themselves. I'm pretty sure that no one cubes essentially solely for 2x2, in the way that you "cubed" essentially only for clock a year ago. (Sure you did other things, but clock was the only thing you determinedly focussed on). Perhaps Rowe does consider 2x2 to be his die-hard event. But that is only one person.
Oh and before you say "well one person is more than no-one", I think you ought to look up the word hyperbole.

LOL, i practiced 2x2 for a few months and got sub3, ever since then I've barely practiced. Once you get fast enough you stay the same speed no matter how little you practice. I consider 3x3 my best event despite not having the WR for it. If more people practiced 2x2, my 3x3 rankings would be much better then my 2x2 rankings. I dont consider 2x2 my "diehard" event or whatever, i just do it because its easy and fits my cubing style perfectly (turn fast, stop, look, turn fast). and tyson is thinking about taking 2x2 out of official competition? wow tyson, we need to talk .

 

[gpt_kibutz]

So then, what is it to you that makes 2x2 a worthy official event? An event worth dedicating hours a day to, and something which you feel more people should do, because it is such a worthy event?

It's time that we shifted the burden of the proof to yourself seeing as you feel that this guy should be on the list.

That's your own particular opinion. 2x2 makes way more sense to me than magic, for example. Why isn't magic an unworthy event?
What you are saying is plainly stupid.

 

[Dene]

So then, what is it to you that makes 2x2 a worthy official event? An event worth dedicating hours a day to, and something which you feel more people should do, because it is such a worthy event?

It's time that we shifted the burden of the proof to yourself seeing as you feel that this guy should be on the list.

That's your own particular opinion. 2x2 makes way more sense to me than magic, for example. Why isn't magic an unworthy event?
What you are saying is plainly stupid.

You are stupid to assume that I think magic should remain an official event. Did you even bother to check my official WCA profile?

 

[Faz]

Uhh, this thread is for people you should know, and umm, I think a fair few people know me. And I only hate interviews with stupid media.

on topic sortof. Heard of all of them except Dan Gosbee.

Oh, didn't realise I worded it like that. May have gotten the wrong message across.

=> This thread is for people that are from cubing history, and it's pointing out people who everyone should know, and key figures in the history of cubing.

As lots of new cubers know me, I shouldn't be in that list. (Not that I would ever be in a prestigious list like that anyway)

Sorry if the previous post seemed boastful at all, I just worded it badly, and someone pointed that out.

 

[Erik]

Btw. I met 19/21. Minh Thai and Gungz still missing. I spoke to Minh on the phone.

Grrr I only get to 16/21 I chatted with Minh Thai on MSN, does that count as 'meeting'?

People worth mentioning imho are:
- Joël van Noort (European Champion 2006)
- Dan Harris (do not to say more here)
- Alexander Ooms (he basically is the god of magic)
- Frank Morris (inspiration in big-cubes for the whole world I think)
- Guus Razoux-Schultz (definitely should be mentioned for his aweseomeness, he was also one of the first people to do F2L, way before Fridrich, but not the first one I think. Besides CLL/ELL and FMC = Guus. Did I mention he was 2nd in 1982?)
- Ton Dennenbroek (come on guys! how can you forget? also one of the fathers of the WCA, plus his cubing collection is mindblowing)

 

[Tim Major]

Minh Thai, USA - Won the first World Championship, held in Hungary '82, with a best time of 22.95 seconds.



Dan Gosbee, Canada. Hosted the 2nd World Championship in Toronto, Canada. This was the main starting point for the new wave of speed cubing.

Jean Pons, France. World champion of 2005 and first to get a sub12 in competition.

Didn't know those two. And most newbie's know Erik and Yu, though I guess fair enough having them, as they have done other not so well things in cubing, and many cubers have started after seeing their youtube videos.

 

[Ton]

Dan Gosbee, should not be in this list

The driving force behind the speedcubing and 2nd WC where Dan Knights, Ron and Chris Hardwick

Dan Gosbee hosted the 2nd WC thats,all of the actual organization work was actual done by you Ron and the sponsors (Sventowns , Winning Moves)

Dan Gosbee contribution was a usefull one for the 2nd WC , but I can hardly say that hosting one competition is worth mentioning

 

[KConny]

Erik: Ton wasn't forgotten. There is a little about him in the description of Ron. Joël and Dan was a GREAT inspiration for me when I was new. But they didn't come up with any new big methods nor did they achieve something really spectacular. Al tough Dan din write a book, that's cool. I've said it before, Guus can be on the list if someone writes something about him.

Ton: Okay. The stuff I've seen about him he tends to portrait himself as a really important person. But some people are perhaps too proud of them self. It feels weird to take someone of the list, but I trust you.

 

[cubacca1972]

A few obscure additions:

David Allen and his friend Gene Means, who competed at the 2003 event in Toronto

Blistering fast corners first cubers. David won the US nationals in 1982. I watched him casually bust out a sub 15 solve prior to the competition. This guy had freakishly fast algorithms and a very unique style. He was easily the fastest corners first solver I have seen.

I found him to be rather eccentric, and a bit cryptic about his method. Then he just dropped off the face of the earth, never really sharing much info.

I guess that might make him notable in the same sense as Guimond.

http://www.ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/wc2003_1.html

 

[bluecloe45]

rowe hessler? HELLO?

 

[HsilgnE RelyT]

Dan Harris {Uk #1 speedcuber}
Rowe Hessler

Should be on there!

 

[joey]

Dan Harris {Uk #1 speedcuber}

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