I am now an average of 20Seconds,How can we more quickly

[楓葉]

cofp All memory of the,i + is under 3.5Seconds ,f2l is 10Seconds,oll+pll 6 Seconds

 

[PCwizCube]

Cross and F2L can be faster. And you didn't say much else, maybe if you post a video we might be able to help you more.

 

[楓葉]

I was in Hong Kong so English not good, I speak at a later will be issued a video

 

[rubiknewbie]

You are doing well! I am hoping to be like you 1 day :fp.

 

[qqwref]

Work on lookahead with F2L and cross. You might have to slow down your turning, but it is essential that you can do F2L without a pause most of the time. That will improve your times a lot. Aside from that, practicing LL algs can help, because you want to execute those as fast as possible...

 

[楓葉]

f2l
I can find a place,But I can not know what circumstances he is

So how should I practice?

 

[blah]

I mean no offense, but I think it'd be better if you just typed in Chinese and someone here translated it for you :rolleyes: 我唔介意同你翻譯

 

[楓葉]

I mean no offense, but I think it'd be better if you just typed in Chinese and someone here translated it for you :rolleyes: 我唔介意幫你翻譯

o thx
我在做f2l的pair的時候經常都找到,但就不知他是什麼情況,要再去看看是什麼情況才知道怎樣做!我就是在這裡慢了!我應該怎樣更快!

 

[Chuck]

I mean no offense, but I think it'd be better if you just typed in Chinese and someone here translated it for you :rolleyes: 我唔介意同你翻譯

Assuming that he will understand any advice we give him in English?
Or that "someone" should translated it again for him? :fp

 

[blah]

我唔係好清楚你講緊既係乜野問題咼。咩叫 “ 找到， 但係又唔知係乜野情況 ” 咧？好似有D出入咼，冇理由睇到個 pair 但係又唔知係邊一個 case 架？

 

[rubiknewbie]

Circumstances is so vague.

 

[楓葉]

我唔係好清楚你講緊既係乜野問題咼。咩叫 “ 找到， 但係又唔知係乜野情況 ” 咧？好似有D出入咼，冇理由睇到個 pair 但係又唔知係邊一個 case 架？

知道pair的位置,但不知什麼情況,我是用白做底!角也有3仲情況(一是在上,二是在右,三是在左),如在上一個pair的最後一步會影響了角,就會不知是那一個情況!
原來是馬來西亞
馬來西亞是用廣東話?

 

[rubiknewbie]

I am also not so fast in adjusting to changing circumstances in the pieces from the previous step. I just treat it like a new pair to insert.

 

[楓葉]

So how strong do not stop?

 

[blah]

我唔係好清楚你講緊既係乜野問題咼。咩叫 “ 找到， 但係又唔知係乜野情況 ” 咧？好似有D出入咼，冇理由睇到個 pair 但係又唔知係邊一個 case 架？

知道pair的位置,但不知什麼情況,我是用白做底!角也有3仲情況(一是在上,二是在右,三是在左),如在上一個pair的最後一步會影響了角,就會不知是那一個情況!
原來是馬來西亞
馬來西亞是用廣東話?

咁就要 look ahead 咯。係咁簡單咋。你試下杻慢D，睇下有冇效？最緊要你 insert 緊一個 pair 嘅時候，對眼死都要睇實第二個 pair，你一搞掂咗第一個 pair 就即刻要知第二個喺邊。

我哋乜都講，因為我哋呢度乜鬼人都有。講普通話、廣東話、福建話、潮洲話、海南話、福州話嘅人我哋有哂

Basically what he's saying is that he can locate another pair while doing one, but he can't tell where the pieces will end up after he inserts the current pair. So I told him that's what look ahead is all about.

 

[Mike Hughey]

Work on lookahead with F2L and cross. You might have to slow down your turning, but it is essential that you can do F2L without a pause most of the time. That will improve your times a lot. Aside from that, practicing LL algs can help, because you want to execute those as fast as possible...

May I hijack this thread? I think this information might help the original poster (assuming he can read my long-winded request), and it would certainly help me. I'm much worse than the OP, averaging pretty much exactly 25 seconds.

qqwref, I really try to do F2L without a pause (and if I'm just casually solving without timing myself, I usually succeed), but when I'm timing myself and going for speed, I find that I really don't succeed. I would guess that with about 1/3 of my F2L pairs, I succeed in identifying the pair and knowing exactly what I'm going to do before I finish the previous set of moves. Probably about 1/3 of my F2L pairs are such that I finally identify the pair as I'm doing the last move of the previous set, and then I have to think for a half second or second to decide what to do to insert that pair. Then about 1/3 of them I don't succeed at all, and I'm still looking for the pair when I finish the previous set of moves. And admittedly, the pair that is usually the worst is the one coming out of the cross. (I suspect this is the biggest thing I need to work on.)

Anyway, I guess I'm wondering - is this typical for a 25-second solver, or is this atypical? (And if it's atypical, am I atypical in that I'm particularly bad at it, or particularly good at it?) How good are most people when they finally get to the point where they identify every pair and know what to do to insert it before finishing the previous sequence?

 

[JLarsen]

Anyway, I guess I'm wondering - is this typical for a 25-second solver, or is this atypical? (And if it's atypical, am I atypical in that I'm particularly bad at it, or particularly good at it?) How good are most people when they finally get to the point where they identify every pair and know what to do to insert it before finishing the previous sequence?

I would say that no one can solve completely delay-less, and most people don't. I see lots of fast solvers that solve in "spasms". Sort of like little short bursts.

 

[daniel0731ex]

I mean no offense, but I think it'd be better if you just typed in Chinese and someone here translated it for you :rolleyes: 我唔介意幫你翻譯

o thx
我在做f2l的pair的時候經常都找到,但就不知他是什麼情況,要再去看看是什麼情況才知道怎樣做!我就是在這裡慢了!我應該怎樣更快!

what you could do is to trace the edge of the next pair when pairing your current pair, and find the corner while inserting the pair. basicly you just need to remember the position of the pieces in your mind and use visual memory to determine which case it is.

 

[daniel0731ex]

Work on lookahead with F2L and cross. You might have to slow down your turning, but it is essential that you can do F2L without a pause most of the time. That will improve your times a lot. Aside from that, practicing LL algs can help, because you want to execute those as fast as possible...

May I hijack this thread? I think this information might help the original poster (assuming he can read my long-winded request), and it would certainly help me. I'm much worse than the OP, averaging pretty much exactly 25 seconds.

qqwref, I really try to do F2L without a pause (and if I'm just casually solving without timing myself, I usually succeed), but when I'm timing myself and going for speed, I find that I really don't succeed. I would guess that with about 1/3 of my F2L pairs, I succeed in identifying the pair and knowing exactly what I'm going to do before I finish the previous set of moves. Probably about 1/3 of my F2L pairs are such that I finally identify the pair as I'm doing the last move of the previous set, and then I have to think for a half second or second to decide what to do to insert that pair. Then about 1/3 of them I don't succeed at all, and I'm still looking for the pair when I finish the previous set of moves. And admittedly, the pair that is usually the worst is the one coming out of the cross. (I suspect this is the biggest thing I need to work on.)

Anyway, I guess I'm wondering - is this typical for a 25-second solver, or is this atypical? (And if it's atypical, am I atypical in that I'm particularly bad at it, or particularly good at it?) How good are most people when they finally get to the point where they identify every pair and know what to do to insert it before finishing the previous sequence?

it's better to stop regularly between pairs than pausing irregularly in one pair. when you realizes about which solutions is this case you are not to look at the pair again, but solve it using muscle memory and find+trace the pieces of the next pair.

 

[楓葉]

我唔係好清楚你講緊既係乜野問題咼。咩叫 “ 找到， 但係又唔知係乜野情況 ” 咧？好似有D出入咼，冇理由睇到個 pair 但係又唔知係邊一個 case 架？

知道pair的位置,但不知什麼情況,我是用白做底!角也有3仲情況(一是在上,二是在右,三是在左),如在上一個pair的最後一步會影響了角,就會不知是那一個情況!
原來是馬來西亞
馬來西亞是用廣東話?

咁就要 look ahead 咯。係咁簡單咋。你試下杻慢D，睇下有冇效？最緊要你 insert 緊一個 pair 嘅時候，對眼死都要睇實第二個 pair，你一搞掂咗第一個 pair 就即刻要知第二個喺邊。

我哋乜都講，因為我哋呢度乜鬼人都有。講普通話、廣東話、福建話、潮洲話、海南話、福州話嘅人我哋有哂

Basically what he's saying is that he can locate another pair while doing one, but he can't tell where the pieces will end up after he inserts the current pair. So I told him that's what look ahead is all about.

我唔能100%唔停,因為就算幾慢,只要最後一下係會影響角我就會停下來看(如十字或上一組pair,角在R那一行,而最後一又是R或R')!那麼看下一組的時間就會減少了!這會很容易停!這個位我不知怎練習!
咁鬼佬識唔識睇中文?