Learning New Methods

[roboboy]

Hey,

Should i be using these methods? Or should i learn something different there seems to be many different methods.
I've been cubing for around 1.5 months and am a bit puzzled as to which method i should be using or learning, i cube around 50-70sec using the method of:

Cross: 8 sec
F2L Corners: 20-30 sec
LL: Get Cross on top, Get corners in correct positions, Sune to Permute the corners, then Edge Swap PLLs

I'm looking to change my method to:

F2L, than for Last Layer:

Cross on top, OLL (Cases with the cross done), then Corner Swap using T-Perm algo and then edge swap perms.

Similar to the intermediate solution on this page: http://www.its.caltech.edu/~leyanlo/

Then using the above as a transition to learning all the PLLs.

Anything i should know? Before i change methods?

 

[Kemp_Drumsalot]

Just know that don't give up if it is hard at first. I struggled with the F2L because it was hard to grasp the concept, but it will click eventually. You'll also notice, especially on last layer, how few of moves it takes to solve this way.

 

[aznnerd]

where'd you learn f2l, i need a website that shows you very clearly? I've tried cubefreak dot net, but I dont quite understand what Macky means.....

 

[Kemp_Drumsalot]

Basically, it is intuitive. You have to learn how to put a corner and an edge together so that the to colors besides your top are the same. I just found THIS SITE for you though.

 

[aznnerd]

Thank you very much!

 

[Kemp_Drumsalot]

No problem bud, good luck, if you need more help just ask or message me.

 

[roboboy]

Should i be progressing as above or is there a better or an alternate way?

 

[Kemp_Drumsalot]

How do you solve currently roboboy?

 

[roboboy]

Read above, I am the OP.

 

[Kemp_Drumsalot]

Woooh buddy, you are about to tackle the best way to solve the cube, but also the hardest. I would suggest taking it at a little slower pace and learning what I am doing at the current time.
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F2L+Last layer consisting of a total of 11 algorithms.
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I can seem to find where I got them from, but it is a simplified version of the 117 or however many algorithms for that method, and would be a good intro.

 

[roboboy]

Not yet, the hardest yet not so difficult to obtain would be F2L + OLL + PLL no getting a cross first for top layer. That means Learning all the OLL and all the PLLs

 

[Dirk BerGuRK]

Hey roboboy,

I encourage you to try and learn to solve the corner-edge pairs of your F2L intuitively instead of learning them as algorithms. There are many shortcuts that you can use that are faster than the algorithms that you will see quicker if you really try and learn it yourself. Take your time and see how you can reduce the number of moves you use. I still encourage you to run through the algorithms except try to understand what they are doing instead of trying to learn them by heart. In my opinion, this will improve your times much faster than anything else. You can easily reach sub-30 times and beyond using that method.

 

[roboboy]

I do F2L intuitively. Not very fast though, just need practice.

 

[Kemp_Drumsalot]

How fast is your F2L? Mine's terribly slow lol

 

[roboboy]

30-40 seconds. Incl. cross.

I just wanna know is this the right way to be headed??

 

[roboboy]

Sorry for this, but just a Bump on my thread, regarding my original question of: Whether this(Read Original Post) is the correct way to be transitioning towards a full Fridrich solve?

 

[4GO57O]

maybe but
the full fridrich solve is
1.)cross
2.)F2L corners blah
3.)LL Orientation
4.)PLL

is it right? lol

so I think yeah....maybe it's right for now since a full fridrich solve has a lot of algos...and when we memorize e just do it sorta intuitively w/o thinking of it...yea

 

[roboboy]

Yea, I'm looking for the clearest transition into the Fridrich method.

 

[Dirk BerGuRK]

Sorry for this, but just a Bump on my thread, regarding my original question of: Whether this(Read Original Post) is the correct way to be transitioning towards a full Fridrich solve?

Hey roboboy,

If your ultimate goal is to transition into a full Fridrich method then yes, you are headed in the right path. After you feel comfortable with with a 4LLL, then you can learn the PLLs to reduce it to a 3LLL. Afterwards you can memorize the OLLs to move into full Fridrich (2LLL, OLL/PLL).

 

[Skrato]

You should start learning pll algorithms, you will get better times from 1 look pll then from learning the cross OLLs. I learnt pll and my times went from 50 sec to 40 sec in a day. Then you can learn cross OLL because there isn't any other intermediate step.

And if you do keep doing corner swap, don't use the T-perm, find some other, shorter alg.