Need Help Learning Fridrich

[keyboarddrummer]

I was wondering what the best way to go was for this method. I found algs online. I can do F2L mostly intuitively, some algs, but I don't know all cases or all algorithims. I also know very little of OLL, but absolutely no PLL without looking at the algs. I found algs for 2 look OLL and 2 look PLL, and was wondering if I should learn those first. My real question though was what is the best way to learn the algs and be able to do this method quickly.

 

[zip_dog12]

Practice more!

 

[mr.onehanded]

Yes defiantly learn two look oll and pll first because you will have to know them in order to know full oll and pll so you might as well learn them first. In regards to f2l, all you need to know is how to pair an edge and corner when, the cross color on the corner piece is on top, the cross color matches the edge on top and the, and when the edge color doesn't match the corner on top. Once you know all of that you should be able to create one of the cases. if you need any help pm me and i'd be more than happy to make you a video on youtube to explain.

 

[V-te]

Learn 2 look oll and Pll first, then learn all the Plls. I did that and now I only need 4 more Plls to learn. and you must practice everyday!!!! I'm gonna try to be constant sub 35 before I try to learn all the OLLs. It's not that difficult, just takes time and patience.

 

[*LukeMayn*]

for 2 look PLL just use:
Y, T and U perms.
Then slowly extend your knowledge.

 

[keyboarddrummer]

for 2 look PLL just use:
Y, T and U perms.
Then slowly extend your knowledge.

I was planning on using clockwise/counterclockwise edge and corner cylces (U and A), the H perm, the Z perm, and the E perm. How do these compare to yours (besides being more)?

 

[4Chan]

I can give you some tips on learning algs.
I once memorized 20 algs in one day. I learned 30 in the past week, and i can prove it on webcam.

Sometimes it helps if you split the alg into parts and memorize in parts, very much like a phone number.

If you watch the alg while performing it, and observe the blocks of color, you can visualize the alg better while performing it.

Saying the moves as you perform them verbally also helps to ingrain it into your memory.

Learn an algorithm, then take a nap and then start learning the same algorithm again, it really helps.

Trust me, i know lots of algs. (I know 8 subsets of zbll)

 

[oneofthosedudes]

F2L is the awkward part. i had badmephisto's page bookmarked, but i didnt need it so i deleted it and now i dont know where it is.

anyway, you just need to find a list of the cases, preferably with algorithms. then, do the algorithms, and try to understand how they work. that way there isnt very little or no memorization required. if there are no algorithms, figure out the cases yourself. most of them are simple.

for oll, learn 2-look, then after that, when you have time, start looking at the really easy cases, like f (R U R' U') f'. when the easy ones are done, just pick 1 at random to learn. after a while, recognition becomes easier, and before you know it, you'll be done.

i stumbled upon pll by accident, so i had no knowledge of 2-look. i just started learning them in the order they were in on the page. when i got a case i didnt know (during a solve) i just did a random alg, and hoped it turned into a case i knew.
definitely learn 2-look pll though... my way wasnt very good. i still wonder how i managed to learn 21 somewhat long algorithms in such a relatively short time XD

 

[Jokerman5656]

F2L is the awkward part. i had badmephisto's page bookmarked, but i didnt need it so i deleted it and now i dont know where it is.

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Do you mean this page? http://badmephisto.dyndns.org/site/f2l.php

 

[*LukeMayn*]

for 2 look PLL just use:
Y, T and U perms.
Then slowly extend your knowledge.

I was planning on using clockwise/counterclockwise edge and corner cylces (U and A), the H perm, the Z perm, and the E perm. How do these compare to yours (besides being more)?

It's not more... I know full PLL and ~85% OLL but anyway, When I was using 4LLL I found that the T and Y were good because they SUPER easy to recognize and both were very fast. U perms cover everything in EP as along as you do it 1 or 2 times. I would learn Z and H too though as they are super easy to memo.

 

[oneofthosedudes]

Originally Posted by oneofthosedudes
F2L is the awkward part. i had badmephisto's page bookmarked, but i didnt need it so i deleted it and now i dont know where it is.

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Do you mean this page? http://badmephisto.dyndns.org/site/f2l.php
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nope, lol..

i found that page while i was looking, but thats not the one. there was another one.. it might'v been bob burton's page, but either way, i remember it was in the description on 1 of badmephisto's f2l videos.

it looked kinda like his pll page. it was black and red.

 

[oneofthosedudes]

F2L is the awkward part. i had badmephisto's page bookmarked, but i didnt need it so i deleted it and now i dont know where it is.

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Do you mean this page? http://badmephisto.dyndns.org/site/f2l.php

nope, lol..

i found that page while i was looking, but thats not the one. there was another one.. it might'v been bob burton's page, but either way, i remember it was in the description on 1 of badmephisto's f2l videos.

it looked kinda like his pll page. it was black and red.

edit: but that page works just fine. lol