What is the most cubing-developed country?

[Lord_Oscar]

I was wondering which country has the most developed speedcubing culture. We're talking about most comps, most professional cubers, and best results.
Results are appreciated.

 

[rebuC]

I would say China but maybe also the USA.

 

[siwoo]

trick question it's china, all the big brands are operating out of there, ntm they got cubers like wang yiheng, xu ruihang, du yusheng, zhang bofan, cao qixian etc..

there is not another country that comes close

 

[OtaMota]

We're talking about most comps, most professional cubers, and best results.
Results are appreciated.

Most comps is easily US.

Most professional cubers I think is US but it could also be china

Best results, it depends. In popular events like 3x3, Pyra, and 2x2, China leads by a comfortable margin imo, though US is easily more well rounded

 

[artless1der]

by total square miles the country has for lamdmass
or by population? 乁⁠(⁠ ⁠•⁠_⁠•⁠ ⁠)⁠ㄏ

 

[artless1der]

trick question it's china, all the big brands are operating out of there, ntm they got cubers like wang yiheng, xu ruihang, du yusheng, zhang bofan, cao qixian etc..

there is not another country that comes close

Max Park (U.S.A.) 'nuff said

 

[HiroshiCubes]

For me it is the US. A runner up would probably be like some country in europe, UK, or Poland

 

[Bingus Ringus McDingus]

China, USA, and

Poland.

 

[Spencer131]

Here are a bunch of different ways of looking at it. The last table is interesting because it shows countries that are small but mighty. In other words, the countries who have a high number in top 100 proportional to their total number of cubers.

Number of comps:

1. USA - 2,614
2. China - 629
3. India - 524
4. Brazil - 430
5. Poland - 423
6. Australia - 411
7. Canada - 334
8. Spain - 323
9. France - 277
10. Colombia - 268

Number of cubers:

1. USA - 44,791
2. China - 24,004
3. India - 17,186
4. Australia - 9,081
5. Canada - 7896
6. Brazil - 7266
7. Russia - 6647
8. Poland - 5273
9. United Kingdom - 4,661
10. Philippines - 4,560

Number in top 100 in 3x3:

1. USA - 31
2. China - 11
3. Poland - 6
4. Australia - 5
5. Philippines - 4
6. Netherlands - 4
7. Germany - 4
8. Canada - 4
9. Norway - 3
10. Korea - 3

Number in top 100 in any event:

1. USA - 502
2. China - 194
3. Poland - 154
4. Australia - 91
5. Germany - 74
6. United Kingdom - 69
7. Korea - 66
8. France - 63
9. Canada - 51
10. Indonesia - 46

Number in top 100 divided by total number of cubers:

countryId	total_count	top100_count	ratio
Macau	32	2	0.0625
Hungary	1136	42	0.0370
Hong Kong	1009	33	0.0327
Austria	329	10	0.0304
Denmark	991	29	0.0293
Poland	5273	154	0.0292
Switzerland	826	21	0.0254
Germany	3058	74	0.0242
Singapore	1117	27	0.0242
Argentina	1271	30	0.0236

 

[artless1der]

China, USA, and View attachment 29359Poland.

Poland yes indeedy Magdalena Pabisz has the FWR 3×3 single

 

[NigelTheCuber]

usa. china comes close but like those kids only good in 3x3 (joking)
the usa cubers are more all round

 

[OldSwiss]

In all your calculations, don't forget that China has 1.4 billion people.

24'000 cubers out of 1'400'000'000 people is not very much, even if they have the fastest one.

I think all the number you mentioned should be put in releation to the population of these countries

 

[cuber314159]

This was from 2022 so has probably changed a bit but it is still interesting

 

[FenTheGoat]

Most by numbers- USA
Best/most developed cubing culture- China

 

[Lord_Oscar]

This was from 2022 so has probably changed a bit but it is still interestingView attachment 29376

Course in NZ there's only 5 mil people

 

[Thom S.]

I think there is a certain statistical bias in most posts here.

1. There is a big language barrier between the english language and the languages spoken in china. This barrier does not exist in most european countries and most people in the USA already speak english by default. But many nationalities and languages spoken in the asian continent have a bigger wall before english (figuratively and also the difficulty of learning english coming from their language) than germanic languages.
2. Big point. China is known for their secrecy even in mundane topics. It's entirely possible that a big portion of their cubing community is hidden from the western audience/community. You can imagine that information about cubing falls under their complicated freedom-of-press situation. China does not want to make their youth look interested in playing games to the outside world as seen with gaming and other forms of competetive games.

 

[unirox13]

Because of size, USA, we win on comps. (because we have the most) They're not always official, but I'm guessing that there's a lot of them.

Now when it comes to speed puzzle technology and production, China is tops like a mf'er!

However when it comes to solving and overcoming unique and strange puzzles, I think that the UK and then the US are in the lead. China can build them, we can solve them.

 

[cuber314159]

Course in NZ there's only 5 mil people

Yes but still interesting how they have so many sub-10 cubers with such a small population