The "Yusheng Du" situation

[Ayce]

I got a 5 while averaging 13 3x3. I got a 1 while averaging 7 pyra.

Aren’t you the same guy with the “sorry for faking solves thread” guy?
This thread is just flexing fake solves and bad hand scrambles
-
Honestly I think it’s another Yusheng Du situation. Talented enough guy, great scramble, perfect execution. I like these situations a lot, it lets cubers who never get the chance of being world class a good bit of popularity.

 

[FaTyl]

the title of this thread made me think yusheng did something horrible

anyway, i got some good official pyraminx singles (a few 5s and a 4) back when i averaged, like, 10. i've also had the opposite, where one of my single ranks was much worse than my average rank. just look at my 2x2 ranks in this old screenshot

 

[ProStar]

To be fair, Yusheng Du had a 7 average at the time, which was still quite good for 2019. The solve definitely was a surprise to everyone, but not quite as impossible as it seemed to a lot of us at the time

 

[xyzzy]

Yusheng Du had a 7 average at the time

His PR average was indeed 7.x at the time, but a quick glance at his results reveals two things:
1. He goes to a lot of comps. Naturally, that's also a lot of opportunities to break records.
2. His "global" average was more like 8-9 seconds (at the time).

Also, I think he was only unknown to the non-Chinese-speaking community. I might be remembering wrongly, but wasn't he already sponsored by Moyu before he even got the WR single?

 

[OtaMota]

Using a yearly time inflation rate of 1.038, a 7.43 ao5, his pr average before the WR single, would be about 6.17 today, quite a good time today, so I would imagine 7.43 would be a respectable time back in 2018.

 

[Gecko777]

Can't remember clearly anymore since it's ages ago, but my PB Single, 4.06 was done when I averaged like 17 as well

if you are talking about 3x3 , i cannot see how that is real as that is a world class time.

 

[OtaMota]

if you are talking about 3x3 , i cannot see how that is real as that is a world class time.

Think he is talking about square 1.

 

[Gecko777]

Think he is talking about square 1.

basically the same situation still

 

[OtaMota]

basically the same situation still

Not really, square 1 only has combinations in the billions iirc while 3x3 has 43 quintillion. Lucky scrambles are far more common on sq-1, WB I believe is 1.64. The scram was just a PBL. With the right scramble, I could see Thom getting a 4.06. I does depend on the scram though. WCA regs require a minimum of 11 slices for each scram, so if he got his scramble from a place that does not replicate TNoodle, that could be a way for the solve to be illegitimate. If the scram was from CStimer though, it should be good.

 

[Gecko777]

Not really, square 1 only has combinations in the billions iirc while 3x3 has 43 quintillion. Lucky scrambles are far more common on sq-1, WB I believe is 1.92 by Dylan. with the right scramble, I could see Thom getting a 4.06. I does depend on the scram though. WCA regs require a minimum of 11 slices for each scram, so if he got his scramble from a place that does not replicate TNoodle, that could be a way for the solve to be illegitimate. If the scram was from CStimer though, it should be good.

with an avg of 17, i just do not see how that would be possible. its like if you avg 12 for 3x3 and got a 4.high

 

[OtaMota]

with an avg of 17, i just do not see how that would be possible. its like if you avg 12 for 3x3 and got a 4.high

Square 1 and 3x3 are different puzzles. You can get far more lucky with square 1 singles. That being said, @Thom S. , it would be nice to see the scramble so we can see how lucky it is.

 

[Gecko777]

Square 1 and 3x3 are different puzzles. You can get far more lucky with square 1 singles. That being said, @Thom S. , it would be nice to see the scramble so we can see how lucky it is.

still, that lucky?

 

[OtaMota]

still, that lucky?

Let's just see the scram. @Thom S.

 

[artless1der]

Du got his 3.47s WR solve when he averaged about 6s... and the scramble for that round only had 16 moves (acc'ing to Ruwix.com) ...

also worth checking out J Perm's video avkut the solve and reconstruction... it was a great solve super elegant yo

 

[VincentCuber]

the title of this thread made me think yusheng did something horrible

anyway, i got some good official pyraminx singles (a few 5s and a 4) back when i averaged, like, 10. i've also had the opposite, where one of my single ranks was much worse than my average rank. just look at my 2x2 ranks in this old screenshot

View attachment 26647

I got a two 6s when averaging 12

 

[Thom S.]

So, I've found the scramble in my timer.

(1,0) / (2,-4) / (-5,1) / (-4,-1) / (-2,-2) / (-1,0) / (6,0) / (6,0) / (-2,0) / (0,-3)

The Timer says I archieved this in early 2018, and correction, it's a 5.07, not a 4.07. My mistake, honest mistake. Been cubing for longer than some of you have been alive, so I'll remember some things wrongly sometimes.

 

[Thom S.]

if you are talking about 3x3 , i cannot see how that is real as that is a world class time.

The thread is about Sq1, my previous post was about Sq1, the post I was quoting was about Sq1
How did you think I was talking about 3x3?

 

[Mike Hughey]

So, I've found the scramble in my timer.

(1,0) / (2,-4) / (-5,1) / (-4,-1) / (-2,-2) / (-1,0) / (6,0) / (6,0) / (-2,0) / (0,-3)

The Timer says I archieved this in early 2018, and correction, it's a 5.07, not a 4.07. My mistake, honest mistake. Been cubing for longer than some of you have been alive, so I'll remember some things wrongly sometimes.

Nice scramble. I got a 15.94 on it, which would be a new all-time personal best for me if I were willing to count it (which I'm not, since I knew it was easy).
That was an awfully lucky scramble. I think it's not unreasonable to think a 5.07 on it might be possible for someone averaging 17.