Discomantis's progression thread | On the bigBLD grind

[SpeakCuba]

As what Discomantis said, if you want to get fast, CLL is very important. I stuck with Ortega for way too long, and I regret that. CLL is not that difficult, and it will only take a week, or maybe even less. Learn Ortega ig, but once you get Sub-6, just switch to CLL. If you practice a lot, you can getSub-3 with CLL, but I was Sub-3.5 with CLL when I switched to EG.

Also the cube is important. You definitely want to get either a GAN, MGC Elite, MGC, or Valk 2. Any other cube that is decent could work, but it would help a lot to get one of the cubes I listed.

Just a personal opinion, but I would say to take your time with CLL. The way I did it was learn 1-3 algs a day, maybe more if they were really easy, and then use Jperm’s CLL trainer to really get comfortable with the cases. It did take me about a month to finish all of CLL, but I was wondering if anyone else did the same.

For your recommended cubes, would a GAN 249 v2 (non-magnetized) work? I currently main that, but it’s a little small and of course, non-magnetic.

 

[Discomantis]

I just got a PB2 average of 1.72
View attachment 25688


I am very proud of myself for getting this average. I am more proud of this than my PB average because of the fact that I didn't choke after counting a 1.25, because I one looked all solves except for the fourth solve, and because I used anti-TCLL on the last solve on a scramble that looked bad at first.




I think I'm going to learn the L set of EG-1 now. I do have a one pi and two U cases left, but after I tackle the L subset of EG-1, I think I might learn those.

(I don't mean LEG-1. That is a different thing where you do EG-1 with your bar on left.)

Recon:

 

[SpeakCuba]

Recon:

So if I understand correctly, you mostly use CLL + 1-Look?

 

[Discomantis]

So if I understand correctly, you mostly use CLL + 1-Look?

No, I use CLL, half of EG-1, and one look about 30%-40% of solves.

Most of the other solves are with CLL but with recognition.

 

[SpeakCuba]

No, I use CLL, half of EG-1, and one look about 30% of solves.

Most of the other solves are two look CLL.

Alright, thanks for clarifying.

 

[Discomantis]

2BLD overall PB by over 2 seconds in the weekly competition! View attachment 25620

Here is a recon:


Scramble: U' R' U2 R2 F' R2 U' F U' F U2

I opened the cover, and noticed that 3 red pieces were solved.

I did an x rotation followed by two y' rotations to find the red piece.

I noticed that I had a TCLL case I knew.

So, I did this:

U R U' R' U R U' R'

While doing the TCLL, I was thinking about the corner facing up to predict the AUF.

I realized it was a U AUF during the alg.

 

[Discomantis]

I just did a bit of 2BLD practice

1. DNF(14.27) R2 F U' F' U' F R U' F2
2. 15.52+ F R' F' R2 F' U2 F' R F'
3. 13.57 F R2 F' R' U2 R2 U' F2 R'
4. DNF(1:30.06) F U F' U2 R F U2 R2 U' R
5. 9.90 F2 R2 F R F' U R2 F2 U'
6. DNF(40.00) U F' R F U F' U2 F' R'
7. DNF(38.68) R2 U F R2 U2 R' U2 F' R2
8. 53.48 R F R' U' F R2 U' R' U2
9. 34.19 R F' U F2 U F2 R' U2 R F
10. 14.41 F U F' U F2 U R2 F2 R'
11. 17.85 F U' F' R F' U2 R2 F' U
12. 9.31 R U2 F' U2 F' R' F R2 F'
13. 9.89 U2 R' U2 F U' R U' R2 F'
14. DNF(52.80) R U2 F' R U F2 R' U' F2 R'
15. 25.49 F R2 U2 R F2 R' U2 F U2
16. 19.54 R' F' U' F2 U' F2 U F2 U' R
17. 31.44 F' U2 R U F U2 R' F R

 

[SpeakCuba]

I just did a bit of 2BLD practice

1. DNF(14.27) R2 F U' F' U' F R U' F2
2. 15.52+ F R' F' R2 F' U2 F' R F'
3. 13.57 F R2 F' R' U2 R2 U' F2 R'
4. DNF(1:30.06) F U F' U2 R F U2 R2 U' R
5. 9.90 F2 R2 F R F' U R2 F2 U'
6. DNF(40.00) U F' R F U F' U2 F' R'
7. DNF(38.68) R2 U F R2 U2 R' U2 F' R2
8. 53.48 R F R' U' F R2 U' R' U2
9. 34.19 R F' U F2 U F2 R' U2 R F
10. 14.41 F U F' U F2 U R2 F2 R'
11. 17.85 F U' F' R F' U2 R2 F' U
12. 9.31 R U2 F' U2 F' R' F R2 F'
13. 9.89 U2 R' U2 F U' R U' R2 F'
14. DNF(52.80) R U2 F' R U F2 R' U' F2 R'
15. 25.49 F R2 U2 R F2 R' U2 F U2
16. 19.54 R' F' U' F2 U' F2 U F2 U' R
17. 31.44 F' U2 R U F U2 R' F R

I just started this yesterday, and I wanted to ask, how exactly do new cycles work? Example, Say my letter pairs are GH IJ and then I hit the buffer piece and have to start a new cycle. How do I go about it?

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

I just started this yesterday, and I wanted to ask, how exactly do new cycles work? Example, Say my letter pairs are GH IJ and then I hit the buffer piece and have to start a new cycle. How do I go about it?

Pick a random unsolved piece that you haven't visited yet and go from there until you hit that piece again

 

[SpeakCuba]

Pick a random unsolved piece that you haven't visited yet and go from there until you hit that piece again

Yep, the problem I am having is do I count the letter of the new piece I picked? So, say I pick N as my new piece, do I include the letter N in the memo process?

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

Yep, the problem I am having is do I count the letter of the new piece I picked? So, say I pick N as my new piece, do I include the letter N in the memo process?

Yes. Also, say you then go on and hit B after a while, maybe even immediately after, you also include B.
But based on what scrambles took @Discomantis long or not and the fact that he +2ed a solve, I'd say he doesn't use the 2BLD method but just 1 look 2x2 (the +2 corresponding to a mispredicted / guessed AUF)

 

[SpeakCuba]

Yes. Also, say you then go on and hit B after a while, maybe even immediately after, you also include B.

So... if I am understanding correctly, you start a new cycle, and pick the N piece. You include it in the memo, and then keep going until (if) you hit B, then you also include B in the memo?

Thanks for the input. Just one last thing. If I pick piece N, and then land back on N, do I count N again or no?

But based on what scrambles took @Discomantis long or not and the fact that he +2ed a solve, I'd say he doesn't use the 2BLD method but just 1 look 2x2 (the +2 corresponding to a mispredicted / guessed AUF)

Yeah, that would make sense.

 

[Discomantis]

I just started this yesterday, and I wanted to ask, how exactly do new cycles work? Example, Say my letter pairs are GH IJ and then I hit the buffer piece and have to start a new cycle. How do I go about it?

Here's an example solve:

Before scrambling, put the cube in your blindfolded orientation, and then do a z2 rotation.

Then, follow this scramble: R U' R' U F2 U2 F' R F2


First, do z2 to solve a few pieces.

Then, I'd start memorizing:

QK U

The piece at the U location is the buffer. So now you have to start a new cycle.

What you have to do is you find a piece that you haven't landed in memorization so far, and that piece also has to be unsolved relative to your orientation.


For the sake of continuing, I'll pick the C piece.

So now I have: QK UC


Then what I will do is I will memorize where that piece (C) has to go.

If you ever land on the piece you picked, (C) you will have to start a new cycle again.

If you cannot start a new cycle, you have solved the cube.



So, just for the sake of continuing, here is the rest of memo:

QK UC FC

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

Thanks for the input. Just one last thing. If I pick piece N, and then land back on N, do I count N again or no?

Yes, B was just an example because it is on the same piece as N. It could be N, B or Q in this case, as they are all on that piece.

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

Here's an example solve:

Before scrambling, put the cube in your blindfolded orientation, and then do a z2 rotation.

Then, follow this scramble: R U' R' U F2 U2 F' R F2


First, do z2 to solve a few pieces.

Then, I'd start memorizing:

QK U

The piece at the U location is the buffer. So now you have to start a new cycle.

What you have to do is you find a piece that you haven't landed in memorization so far, and that piece also has to be unsolved relative to your orientation.


For the sake of continuing, I'll pick the C piece.

So now I have: QK UC


Then what I will do is I will memorize where that piece (C) has to go.

If you ever land on the piece you picked, (C) you will have to start a new cycle again.

If you cannot start a new cycle, you have solved the cube.



So, just for the sake of continuing, here is the rest of memo:

QK UC FC

Ok so you do use a 2BLD method. Sherlock Holmes fail moment

 

[SpeakCuba]

Here's an example solve:

Before scrambling, put the cube in your blindfolded orientation, and then do a z2 rotation.

Then, follow this scramble: R U' R' U F2 U2 F' R F2


First, do z2 to solve a few pieces.

Then, I'd start memorizing:

QK U

The piece at the U location is the buffer. So now you have to start a new cycle.

What you have to do is you find a piece that you haven't landed in memorization so far, and that piece also has to be unsolved relative to your orientation.


For the sake of continuing, I'll pick the C piece.

So now I have: QK UC


Then what I will do is I will memorize where that piece (C) has to go.

If you ever land on the piece you picked, (C) you will have to start a new cycle again.

If you cannot start a new cycle, you have solved the cube.



So, just for the sake of continuing, here is the rest of memo:

QK UC FC

Thanks!

 

[Discomantis]

Ok so you do use a 2BLD method. Sherlock Holmes fail moment

This is a joke, right?

If not, I meant 2BLD old pochman example solve

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

This is a joke, right?

If not, I meant 2BLD old pochman example solve

I was referring to what I said earlier:

But based on what scrambles took @Discomantis long or not and the fact that he +2ed a solve, I'd say he doesn't use the 2BLD method but just 1 look 2x2 (the +2 corresponding to a mispredicted / guessed AUF)

I thought you used normal 2x2 methods for 2BLD but turns out you use actual 2BLD methods

 

[Discomantis]

I was referring to what I said earlier:

I thought you used normal 2x2 methods for 2BLD but turns out you use actual 2BLD methods

I one look about 75% of solves.

For EG-1, I don't know all the cases so sometimes I rotate and do a J perm. I also don't know how to predict AUF for that too.

 

[Discomantis]

I just learned 5/6 of the L EG-1 cases!

I still need to work on 4 of them, since I've been using mirrors for two of the algorithms, and I've been confusing cases because of that.



So now I have these cases left:

3 H cases
3 U cases
1 L case
1 Pi case
1 PBL case