Is it worth it to learn all of OLL

Wait, Mark has done some work in improving OLL learning?

I thought he was a BLDer and FMCer only.
My mistake, seems like it was another member on here named Mark. I saw his profile picture of doing MBLD and assumed it was Mark Boyanowski.

Can u link that thread?
I've been looking, but I can't seem to find it. Incase anyone wants to dig around more, it was posted by mark49152 in 2013 ish. I know someone bumped it rather recently, within the last few weeks I believe, but I couldn't see it among those posts.
 
Of course it's not worth it. Why do you think there are only 3 or 4 people in the whole world who know full OLL?

It's really telling that the two people in this thread who say they'd learnt full OLL have either quit cubing entirely or switched to a method that doesn't use full OLL.
 
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There are so many algorithms that maybe it would be a better use of the time to practice other aspects. It would take too long to memorize every single one of them.
Cross and F2L are certainly better areas to improve on initially (with more impacts on time) but full OLL will eventually be necessary as you get faster. 50 algs sound like a lot but you'll get them down eventually
 
I've been looking, but I can't seem to find it. Incase anyone wants to dig around more, it was posted by mark49152 in 2013 ish. I know someone bumped it rather recently, within the last few weeks I believe, but I couldn't see it among those posts.
Here you go, I only found it because I had it bookmarked, lol.
 
whatever you want, just learn this oll
When I twist every corner on a Rubik's Cube, why don't I have to twist any  corners back to solve it? - Quora
 
My mistake, seems like it was another member on here named Mark. I saw his profile picture of doing MBLD and assumed it was Mark Boyanowski.


I've been looking, but I can't seem to find it. Incase anyone wants to dig around more, it was posted by mark49152 in 2013 ish. I know someone bumped it rather recently, within the last few weeks I believe, but I couldn't see it among those posts.
Yeah I bumped it. It's a really interesting thread. (even though I already know full oll)
 
What do you think is worth improving more than the second most move-saving part of CFOP progression after Full PLL?

As long as you stick to CFOP, full OLL will be the second most crucial aspect after full PLL. Think about it, if you currently need to look at your OLL twice and do 5-9 moves(numbers false because I can't currently be bothered to look them up, doesn't matter tho, outcome is the same wether OLL algorithms average at 2 moves or 675,875.98 moves) twice and after becoming comfortable with OLL you look once and do 5-9 moves once, that just about cut your OLL time in half.
 
You don't have to learn them all at once but if you begin, you will find out that it is easier than you think.
Most algs are qute short and most of them are variations of sune, sexy moves and sledges with some setup moves.

Cubehead has a nice video about it.

As I said before, you don't have to learn them all at once, but if you know some groups of them, you use it if you see these cases. If you haven't learned a specific case, you can still use 2 look oll
 
Do u know the link then 😅?
Here you go, I only found it because I had it bookmarked, lol.
There's the link.
 
10.00 Stealth
8.50 Squares
8.13 Dots (1/54)
7.50 T shapes
7.31 Small lightning bolts
6.67 P shapes
6.00 Kites
5.88 C shapes
5.58 L shapes
5.56 Knight moves
5.38 Fishes (excluding kites)
5.25 Big lightning bolts
4.25 H
4.13 I shapes
3.81 Dots (rare)
3.44 Awkward
2.63 W shapes
The cool thing about this is that Stealth, Squares, T-Shapes that save you the most moves have some really short and easy algs, most people already know.
Also some of the dot cases and P are really easy.

Even if someone doesn't want to learn full OLL, he should at least have a look at those
 
It did make me average 25s with 2L OLL to 20s with 1L OLL. Just learn the cases by classes. (e.g. Corners only, Edges only, Knight move) etc.
 
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