Should the WCA change megaminx scramble notation from Pochmann notation to Carrot notation?

Should the WCA change megaminx scramble notation from Pochmann notation to Carrot notation?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 40.6%
  • No

    Votes: 19 59.4%

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When scrambling for megaminx in a WCA competition the scramblers use Pochmann notation which look like this:
R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- U
R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- U'
R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ U
R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ U'

In Carrot notation is an alternative to Pochmann which some consider better the notation looks like this:
+- +- +- +- +- U
+- +- +- +- +- U'
-+ -+ -+ -+ -+ U
-+ -+ -+ -+ -+ U'
 
When scrambling for megaminx in a WCA competition the scramblers use Pochmann notation which look like this:
R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- U
R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- U'
R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ U
R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ U'

In Carrot notation is an alternative to Pochmann which some consider better the notation looks like this:
+- +- +- +- +- U
+- +- +- +- +- U'
-+ -+ -+ -+ -+ U
-+ -+ -+ -+ -+ U'
How do you know if it's r or d moves with carrot notation?
 
I think the best way to answer this would be to do research to determine the following for *both* newcomers and experienced scramblers:
  • Is it easy to get used to?
  • Do they like it more?
  • Is it faster?
  • Is it more accurate?
You'd also have to think through how the notation is meant to be conveyed/reminded to those who only scramble Megaminx occasionally (which is common in areas where all the people familiar with Megaminx... are competing instead of scrambling).

The latter are the primary concern of the WCA.
 
When scrambling for megaminx in a WCA competition the scramblers use Pochmann notation which look like this:
R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- U
R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- R++ D-- U'
R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ U
R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ R-- D++ U'

In Carrot notation is an alternative to Pochmann which some consider better the notation looks like this:
+- +- +- +- +- U
+- +- +- +- +- U'
-+ -+ -+ -+ -+ U
-+ -+ -+ -+ -+ U'
I wish it would be in R U L D F B.
 
You'd also have to think through how the notation is meant to be conveyed/reminded to those who only scramble Megaminx occasionally (which is common in areas where all the people familiar with Megaminx... are competing instead of scrambling).
Yeah you're right. I can already hear the question "Is R or D first?" on every scramble table.
 
That's why I only handscramble and don't work as a scrambler 😜

For me the Pochman seems to be easier. If you lose your positon while reading the line, it's better to find the correct position if you directly see which one was an R and which one a D.

I think it's easier to read with the letters.
 
If nothing goes wrong, Carrot is easier and faster to read, but like @OldSwiss mentioned, if you lose your place mid-scramble, Pochmann notation lets you recover more easily.

I don't have a strong opinion either way, but considering that my main opinion of mega scrambles is that they're not long enough (don't shoot me), if Carrot notation's conciseness allows for longer scrambles, then I'd support that.

(Also I once asked someone who was (much) faster than me at mega and they said they preferred Carrot.)

I wish it would be in R U L D F B.
Megaminx scrambles used to be like that, with one separate letter for each face. It was a nightmare.
 
I don't have a strong opinion either way, but considering that my main opinion of mega scrambles is that they're not long enough (don't shoot me), if Carrot notation's conciseness allows for longer scrambles, then I'd support that
On the topic of shooting you, how are mega scrambles not long enough? I don't really notice any distinction between normal scrambles and scrambles one or two lines shorter or longer. I haven't really tried it out a lot, but do you have any statistics that support your claim?
 
I haven't really tried it out a lot, but do you have any statistics that support your claim?
One of the projects on the backlog…

I did a quick sample of 4-row and 5-row scrambles a few years ago, and those did (seem to) have noticeable biases. I don't especially trust this experiment (small sample size + the checking was done manually rather than by computer) so I've been thinking of redoing it properly lately.
 
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