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The 3x3x3 Example Solve Thread

Pyjam

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L2 R2 U2 B2 D' R2 B2 F2 D' R2 D2 B L2 F D' L D2 F' U L B'

z y L' D F' R' U2 R' U // (7) Two squares
x' U' M' R' U R U' R2 F x // (8/15) Two blocks + EO
U2 R U R' U R2 U' L' U R' U' L U // (13/28) Very long COLL
M U2 M' U' M' U2 M' U M2 U // (10/38) LSE


NEXT : B2 U2 R' U2 B2 L2 R D2 R D2 F2 U B' R2 D' B' U R D F2 L

btw, you can always edit your post if you forget the next scramble.
I know but I did not forget it, I've changed my mind. :p
 
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z2 // inspection
U F R F' R2 B2 U L2 // xcross (8)
U D' L U L' D // 2nd pair (6)
R' U L R U L' U L U' L' // 3rd pair (10)
R' U R U R' U' R U2 R' U R // 4th pair (11)
r U r' R U R' U' r U' r' // OLL 16
x R2 F R F' R U2 r' U r U2 x' // PLL Ja Perm

55HTM 62QTM 55STM 58ETM

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Next: U' L2 U D2 F R D F' U' B' D2 B2 R2 U2 B' L2 B U2 F'
Lucky one ; )
Today I learnt that you shouldn't build xcrosses with free pairs

x2 // inspection
R' F R U' R U2 B' U' L U2 L // xcross (11)
U f' L f // 2nd pair (4)
R U R' U f R f' // 3rd pair (7)
U2 R U2 R' F' U2 F2 R' F' R // 4th pair (10)
l' U' l L' U' L U l' U l // OLL 15
R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' U2 // PLL T Perm

57HTM 65QTM 57STM 58ETM

Next: F U R D' L2 B R2 B' L B L2 B' D2 B' U2 R2 F' R2 B L2
 

zinzan8

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You guys are really impressive, and I am trying to learn from your example solves. However, I don't easily see what you see, and can't really tell how you determine your next moves. I don't know my cube well enough to follow along--I have to do the step, see what you did, then undo the step and redo it. For example, when you are doing first pair, I often (usually) can't tell which pair you are solving until the step is done.

I know this is asking a lot, but if one of you guys could add those details, it would really help some of us. Especially you guys that are doing CFOP, or even Roux (I can't follow Mehta).

For example, from above (solution by @Jam88):
Scramble: B' U2 B U L' U2 L' F' U2 L2 D F2 U' L2 F2 R2 D F2 D2 B'

// cfop yc
U2 F2 D' B' D L' U L U2 B2 // spotted YGO X-cross during inspection
U2 L U' L' R U' R' // Pair 2, spotted GR edge in BL
U' L U' L' U' R' U' R U2 // Pair 3, unpair RB and set up insert
L U' L' U L U L' // Pair 4, unpair OB and set up insert
R U R' U R U2 R' // OLL, Sune
L' U' L F L' U' L U L F' L2 U L U // PLL, Ja Perm

anyway, as I say, I know its asking a lot, and maybe the purpose of this thread isn't to instruct but just to demonstrate what you can do, or share your thinking with other accomplished solvers? But if you can share these types of details sometimes, it could really give insight to how we can plan our steps.

At any rate, thanks for sharing.
 
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F' R' F' L F' B D' //cross

R U2 R' L U' L' //F2L 1
R' U' R2 U2 R2 //F2L 2
U2 R L' U L //F2L 3
y' U L U2 L' U2 L U' L' //F2L 4

U' F U R U' R' F' //OLL

y R' U R' U' y R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R F //PLL

52 moves

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@zinzan8

D R F U' L' U L' B // Cross
So I start by seeing that the yellow-red edge can be inserted with just an R, and the yellow-green edge is flipped, but in place. Before doing the R to insert yellow-red, I do a D, to make it so that yellow-green can just be inserted with an F after doing the R. This doesn't affect either of the 2 other cross pieces, so during inspection, I planned out that yellow-orange is really easy to insert (just U' L2), but while doing that, I can make yellow-blue in a good position to insert as well by doing U' L' U (to put yellow-blue in a nice position matched up with the blue center to insert) L' B, which solves the cross.
L U2 L2 U' L // F2L 1 (green-orange)
This one is pretty self-explanatory, just taking the pieces apart, as they're not paired up the right way, and cancelling into the 3 move insert (L U2 L' to separate the pieces, and L' U' L to insert them.)
R U R' U f R' f' // F2L 2 (red-blue)
This one is pretty easy, as well. The 2 pieces are in a great position to be paired with each other using R U R', but the thing you may not have seen before is this insert (f R' f'). I love using this (and its mirror alg) to insert a pair into the back slot in just 3 moves that can be executed very quickly.
L U' L' U L U' L' // F2L 3 (orange-blue)
I chose to solve the other back slot first, but you could do the other pair first, I just liked this solution better. L U' L' to pair up the pieces is a really nice easy trick to learn. If you were doing it from the front-right slot (do a y2 to look at it like that), you would recognize it by seeing that the color on the right of the corner (blue) and the color of the edge in the top layer (also blue) match up, which means that you can do R U' R' to pair them (or L U' L' from the other angle). After pairing them up, it's just a simple matter of inserting the pair into the back-left slot with U L U' L'.
y' R' U R U' R' U' R // F2L 4 (green-red)
Once again, I made a choice to do a y' to make this pair solveable with only R and U moves, but if you prefer doing lefty moves, you could do a y move and solve the pair with L' U L U' L' U' L. But my solution was to split the pieces by doing R' U R, and then it's another really easy back slot insert with U' R' U' R.
M' R' U' R U' R' U2 R U' M // OLL
I personally don't know this OLL yet, but this is the algorithm for it. If you were to do 2-look, you could do U' F U R U' R' F' (edge orientation), and then U2 R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R' to orient the corners.
U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U // PLL
If you use the OLL algorithm here, you get a simple Jb perm with a U' pre-AUF, and a U AUF. If you did 2-look OLL, you would get an Ra perm. The solution that I would use here would be U2 R U R' F' R U2 R' U2 R' F R U R U2 R', but any Ra perm alg would work.

The total solve ended up being 59 moves (slice turn metric), which isn't amazing, but it'll work for your purpose. You can view the solve here.

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F D' B2 F' U2 F' B2 D' // xcross

R' U' R //F2L 2
L U2 L' U R U' R' //F2L 3
y R' U R U' y F R' F' R //F2L 4

U r U R' U' M U R U' R' U //OLL

R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' //PLL

51 moves

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Oh no, I've been annotating a solve to a new scramble and the next got posted while i was doing it :(. Ah I'll post it anyway, why not. Roux - as it turns out - isn't the easiest method to annotate. Too much intuitive and influenced pairing.

As for the solve, super lucky LSE. Good FB. SB was short but hard to finger trick, lots of regrips. CMLL is average or slightly short.

F L2 R2 F2 R2 U2 F' U2 B' R2 U2 F' R' D U2 F' D R2 F2 D'

Roux, 32 STM

y2 D F r U' F2//FB
U' R2 U2 r2 R' U' R2' r U r' U r//SB
U' r' U r U2' R2' F R F' R//CMLL
U M U' M' U'//LSE


FB
~y2 D - I see that a square is one move away on red/yellow, so my options are either a D or a u to solve it and keep it positioned properly on the left side. I decide to use a D because it's easier to execute and leads into the rest of the solution more fluidly.
~With the FS being only 1 move, I can track the last pair of FB very easily as well as the DR edge.
~F r U' F2 - I know that the minimum and fingertrick friendly solution for the last pair is some variant of F (R) U' F2 solution. This is because I need to set the corner and edge in relation to one another, which is most easily achieved using F (R) and it also places it on the right side with proper orientation in relation to its target.
~The reason for using an r instead of R is this: I know that the DR edge (yellow/orange) is in DB and is misoriented. That can be tracked in inspection. If I used a plain R, the edge would remain in its position. With r however, it is able to be oriented and the F2 would move it to U, just one move away from its center.

SB
~U' R2 - Solve the DB edge while paying attention to the position of the first pair. I recognize that the orange blue pair will be easier to solve than the orange green because of the way orange green is stacked, and also that orange blue is more easily solved if I keep it where it is. If it moves to U, it'll be harder to solve.
~U2 r2 R' U' - This solved the first pair. I first set the corner up so that I can easily make the orange/blue pair (U2) and make it (r2.) I then reposition the DR edge so I may solve the pair and do it (R' U')
~Now it's time to solve the second pair of SB
~R2 r - This sequence serves two functions: to position the square on the right side to the bottom, and to position the final SB edge on the bottom. This will make it easier to pair in the next step.
~U r' U r - This is the pairing and solving of the orange green pair. First I position the corner to be paired, match the edge/corner pair using an r', and solve the pair using U r
~I use r instead of R because it orients the centers which will make LSE easier.

CMLL
~Recognition: T CMLL, headlights in the front, opposites on the top

LSE
~I see that I have an arrow case, and I know that my ULUR are in UF UL. Given the relationship of the edges, I can plan my EOLR
~U - This makes the arrow positioned properly to orient the edges.
~M U' - M would be the default move to orient, but I use a U' to position the ULUR edges on top of one another
~M' - Because I can solve ULUR in relation to the corners with just an M', I do that.
~U' - Lucky L4C skip, AUF (super lucky LSE in general)

I'll just put CuberStache's next

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y x' // Inspection
F2 R F' M2' D // (5) FB
R U2 r' U' r' U2 R r // (8/13) Right square + pair
U' R U' R D R' U' R D' R2' // (10/23) Last pair + CMLL (many cancellations)
U' M' U M U' M' U M' U' // (9/32) LSE


y x' // Inspection
F2 R F' M2' D // (5) FB
R U2 r' U' r' U2 R r // Right square + pair
U' R (U2 R') // Last pair
(R U) R D R' U' R D' R2' // CMLL

NEXT : D R L2 D2 F' U D F' R B U2 D2 F2 L2 B L2 B R2 U2 F'

Happy new year, folks.
 

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Hello, this is my first post!

NEXT : D R L2 D2 F' U D F' R B U2 D2 F2 L2 B L2 B R2 U2 F'

Inspection: x'

XCross (6): R B D U R2 L2 (XCross in layer F)
F2L 1 (3): F' U' F
F2L 2 (8): U2 F U' F' U F U F'
F2L 3 (7): B U' B' U B U B'
1LLL (17): (y2) (U2) R' U2 R F U' R' U R U F' R' F' U F R
AUF: U2

Solve movements: 42

NEXT: B' R' F L' U B' L B D B2 D2 B R' D' U' B' D2 F B' U L U B2 R2 F2

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Hello, this is my first post!
Welcome! You can make a thread under the "Member Intro" subforum to tell more about yourself! Look at the message that pjk sent you, and it will explain all about the forums, and explain how to make an intro thread!
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@zinzan8

U R' F U R2 U R L' U L D' R2 // X-Cross
During inspection, I can see that yellow-blue is just a D' away from being solved, but before doing that, I insert yellow-orange and yellow-green with U R' F U R'. The second U move is to preserve the red-blue pair that was built while inserting those 2 cross edges. The yellow-green-orange corner is now solved relative to 2 edges around it, so I did and R' U R to take its edge out, and L' U L to insert it. I can then finish the X-Cross with D' R2.
U2 f R' f' // F2L 2 (red-blue)
Using the same insert that I did on my last example solve, I did U2 to put the pair in position, then insert with f R' f'.
L U' L' U F' U' F // F2L 3 (green-red)
I could have chosen to solve the orange-blue pair, but I chose green-red because it had a lower movecount. I took the green-red edge out of the back-left slot with L U' L', then just did a simple 3 move insert with U F' U' F.
y' L' U2 L U L' U L U' L' U L // F2L 4
I then rotated to put the last slot in front, just so that I could see everything easier. I actually just did a setup to the case I did in my last example solve with L' U2 L. I then executed the case that I showed yesterday with U L' U L to pair the pieces and U' L' U L to insert the pair.
U' R U R' U R U2 R' // OLL
Simple Sune OLL; just a U pre-AUF.
M2 U' M2 U' M' U2 M2 U2 M' // PLL
For the algorithm that I use, this sets up to a Z-perm with no AUF at the end, but some algs will have an AUF. It really won't matter, as long as you don't +2. ;)
Here is a visual.
U R' F U R' U2 L' U L U' L' U L D' // FB
E' R' u R' u2 R U R' u' // 3QB
F' U' F U' R F' U' F U2 R' u // EOLE
R U R' U R U' R' U R U2 R U2 R2 r U R' U' r' F R F' // CO
R2 U R2 U' R2 D R2 U' R2 U R2 D' M2 U M' U2 M U M2 U' // CP+EP
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