Roux-breaker? The YruRU method

[Devagio]

Alright he is an example of what I do:

Scramble: U L2 D F2 L2 B2 D2 R2 F2 D' B' D2 U' L' F' D2 L2 D' L' U2

x' z2

I see that U' F' will solve the two corners in the bottom left.

I assume that the WBO (in the UBL spot) corner that needs to go in the DFL spot is switched with the corner that is actually there, which means that the UBL corner is number 4.

I see that number 5 and 6 are in different parities and are not friends with each other, and 5 is in an even parity so I read the thread from DBR to UFL.

In my mind I swap corner number 6 ( WRG corner) to be the friend of corner number 5 ( WRB corner) So the corner in the UFR spot is number 1

I swap the corners in positions DFR and DBR because corner number 5 and 6 were in different parties and had different friends.

So when I read the thread I get DBR 2> DFR 3> UFR skip> UBR skip> UBL 4> UFL> 1

so when I read the thread I get 123 which means CP is solved, but because the DFL corner isn't solved, I set it up an F' away from solved with a U' and then do this alg I learned from @Devagio in his post earlier in this thread: F' U' F' U' F. I would insert the edge to make a line by doing U' S (prime?)

I solve the rest of the cube with YruRU and I get diagonal corners at the end Does anyone know what I did wrong? I really felt like I did it right.

Thanks!

EDIT: I forgot to add, this issue only happens when the two corners in the DL aren't solved, if they are, I almost always get CP right.

The tracing here is 321, not 123. My solution is
x’ z2 // inspection
R S2’ U’ F’ // CP-line

I’ll read your post properly once I’m free later today and let you know where the mistake exactly is.

 

[Username: Username:]

I just don't understand how you preserve CP

 

[Sub1Hour]

I just don't understand how you preserve CP

CP is only altered if you do moves other then R, U, Rw, and Uw moves. After CP Line, the cube is only solved with R, U, Rw, and Uw moves.

 

[Username: Username:]

CP is only altered if you do moves other then R, U, Rw, and Uw moves. After CP Line, the cube is only solved with R, U, Rw, and Uw moves.

So when I do D, B or F moves the CP is affected, and that's how I make the CP Line right? kind of reminds me of EO. if you do F2?

 

[Devagio]

@Owen Morrison I guess I figured your mistake out; you have labelled your yellow pieces in the wrong direction. The labelling needs to go clockwise.
For example, my labelling is
YGR-1
YBR-2
YBO-3
YGO-4

 

[Owen Morrison]

@Owen Morrison I guess I figured your mistake out; you have labelled your yellow pieces in the wrong direction. The labelling needs to go clockwise.
For example, my labelling is
YGR-1
YBR-2
YBO-3
YGO-4

Thank you!

 

[Owen Morrison]

The tracing here is 321, not 123. My solution is
x’ z2 // inspection
R S2’ U’ F’ // CP-line

I’ll read your post properly once I’m free later today and let you know where the mistake exactly is.

Wait, does F' swap the piece currently in the DFL spot with UBL? I always thought it was with UBR, maybe that is what I am messing up.

 

[Devagio]

Wait, does F' swap the piece currently in the DFL spot with UBL? I always thought it was with UBR, maybe that is what I am messing up.

It is with UBR, not UBL. According to my numbering, 4 is in DFL, needs to swap with 2, which ends up in UBR before the F’.

 

[Owen Morrison]

It is with UBR, not UBL. According to my numbering, 4 is in DFL, needs to swap with 2, which ends up in UBR before the F’.

hmmm I must have switched some of my numbers up then. I am still very new to trying out this method though so that makes sense.

Sorry for so many questions, but how do you solve CP if the corner that needs to go in the DFL spot is an F2 away from being solved?

 

[Cuberstache]

hmmm I must have switched some of my numbers up then. I am still very new to trying out this method though so that makes sense.

Sorry for so many questions, but how do you solve CP if the corner that needs to go in the DFL spot is an F2 away from being solved?

I tend to just look for different corners in that case, but you can use RU moves to make it solvable with F or F', just like any other case. For instance, R U R' (F) or U' R' U (F')

 

[Devagio]

hmmm I must have switched some of my numbers up then. I am still very new to trying out this method though so that makes sense.

Sorry for so many questions, but how do you solve CP if the corner that needs to go in the DFL spot is an F2 away from being solved?

It’s kinda complicated. I did figure out a way, and ended up deciding that it’s not worth it because it requires setting up of 2 corners, and trying to keep UFR fixed blocks both R and U moves.
So if you have it an F2 away, just solve from some other orientation, or do R U R’ and now it’ll be an F away.

 

[Owen Morrison]

I tend to just look for different corners in that case, but you can use RU moves to make it solvable with F or F', just like any other case. For instance, R U R' (F) or U' R' U (F')

It’s kinda complicated. I did figure out a way, and ended up deciding that it’s not worth it because it requires setting up of 2 corners, and trying to keep UFR fixed blocks both R and U moves.
So if you have it an F2 away, just solve from some other orientation, or do R U R’ and now it’ll be an F away.

Alright thanks!

 

[TheRouxGuy]

Instead of doing CP in the beginning, can I construct the FB directly and perform CPLS while finishing the F2L?

 

[maticuber]

Instead of doing CP in the beginning, can I construct the FB directly and perform CPLS while finishing the F2L?

You can also do cp after F2L while doing EOLL, 24 cases, 15 algs, you probably know most of them.

 

[TheRouxGuy]

You can also do cp after F2L while doing EOLL, 24 cases, 15 algs, you probably know most of them.

What are those algs?

 

[Devagio]

Instead of doing CP in the beginning, can I construct the FB directly and perform CPLS while finishing the F2L?

Yep, though that’d be a variation of LEOR.

 

[maticuber]

What are those algs?

There's a thread by Kirjava with all the algs, the set is called CPEOLL

 

[Owen Morrison]

What is the best way to go about learning all of the circlets? Is there anywhere I can see all of them or do I need to figure out myself?

 

[Devagio]

A correction/addition in CP execution:
There was an oversight in the CP execution, I’m amazed nobody caught it. Today, @Owen Morrison asked me about F2 setups to CP line, to which I in the moment hastily replied “pick another orientation.” I had thought about that in the past after all. A few minutes later, I had that facepalm moment; the logic for F2 setups is literally (well almost) the same as for F or F’, so putting the other corner in UBR should work all the same. And indeed it does.
So, not just setting up the DFL corner an F or F’ away works, but even F2 works. In all cases, the rule is the same, its pair needs to be in UBR. I feel stupid lol.
PS, in either case, F2 setups would be worth it in far fewer cases than F or F’ setups.

What is the best way to go about learning all of the circlets? Is there anywhere I can see all of them or do I need to figure out myself?

I haven’t put them up anywhere yet. I intend to put them up on the website with a pnemonic way of memorising them; but that’ll take time because I got school stuff to do for at least a week.
The way I did it is just practice the beginner way for 2 weeks while being aware that I eventually have to memorise circlets, and I just somehow happened to memorise them all over time because there is only a small number of them.

 

[Owen Morrison]

A correction/addition in CP execution:
There was an oversight in the CP execution, I’m amazed nobody caught it. Today, @Owen Morrison asked me about F2 setups to CP line, to which I in the moment hastily replied “pick another orientation.” I had thought about that in the past after all. A few minutes later, I had that facepalm moment; the logic for F2 setups is literally (well almost) the same as for F or F’, so putting the other corner in UBR should work all the same. And indeed it does.
So, not just setting up the DFL corner an F or F’ away works, but even F2 works. In all cases, the rule is the same, it’s pair needs to be in UBR. I feel stupid lol.
PS, in either case, F2 setups would be worth it in far fewer cases than F or F’ setups.

I haven’t put them up anywhere yet. I intend to put them up on the website with a pnemonic way of memorising them; but that’ll take time because I got school stuff to do for at least a week.
The way I did it is just practice the beginner way for 2 weeks while being aware that I eventually have to memorise circlets, and I just somehow happened to memorise them all over time because there is only a small number of them.

Okay thanks!

And nice to know I can just use a F2 for that case! Also, you are not stupid, you came up with this awesome way of doing CP that most people would never be able to come up with.