Will the Fridrich method ever be beaten?

[Mike Hughey]

Believe it or not with today's 19 turn solve I only studied for a few seconds. The key is to use what you learned from the algorithms, not the algorithms themselves, then combine and adapt as you go.

I don't think anybody does xD. Who is Tony Snyder anyway?

I've always wondered that too. If he were for real, it would be wonderful to see him come to a competition and compete in fewest moves. He'd apply the scramble, look at the cube a few seconds, start turning and writing each move down as he goes, wind up with a solved cube 23 or 24 moves later, reapply the scramble and check the solution, and then turn it in about 4 minutes after the start and leave. And beat the world record by several moves.

Uh, yeah, I have to admit I don't believe it either. I just think it's fun to imagine.

 

[qqwref]

Haha. Does anyone remember the video where Gillex Roux scrambles a cube, then solves it in 19 moves all in one take? It was for a fake video contest, but it looked really good and clean.

I think Tony Snyder claimed something like a 16 second average back in the 1980s, too. If he's for real I'd like to meet him someday.

 

[beingforitself]

http://www.cubestation.co.uk/cs2/index.php?page=profiles/profile.php&uname=unslaver

HE DOES IT WITH TIME DILATION....

>.<

 

[qqwref]

http://www.cubestation.co.uk/cs2/index.php?page=profiles/profile.php&uname=unslaver

"For the record, my turn counting goes like this: "any simultaneous movement of the cube is one turn"."

LMAO

 

[Kieran]

Someone who mainly talked about chess for their entire reply, mentioned something interesting, that cubing had no competition because you are simply solving the cube and not against anyone else. I had a thought, it could be cool to have a Tennis-Type set-up in the way that you have qualifiying to narrow it down to say 128 people, then you are 1v1 with a solve each and the best average of 12. Could be cool? Just an idea.

I don't think it is even feasable to learn or get anywhere near God's Algorithm, mainly because computers solve the cube by trying thousands of times? Correct me if I'm wrong, so how is a Human supposed to see that? And I think the main reason Fridrich users' are so fast is because it's so finger-trick friendly? If there possibly was someone who could calculate GA, then it's not exactly going to be finger friendly. To show what I mean, take a finished cube, do this scramble.

U' L2 U' B2 U' B2 U' R2 U' F2 U' L D' B L2 D' L2 F U2 L' U2

then, as fast as you possibly can, finish it with GA.

U' D2 B2 R' L2 U R F2 R2 B2 U R' D F' L U B' D'

p.s. This took the computer nearly 30 minutes to calculate, yet a person can definitely do this?

What I'm saying is that, even if some-one could figure out GA in the 15 second inspection time, I really don't think that it's going to be possible to sub-5 (20 moves, 4.xx tps) unless someone gets a really lucky solve, LL skip, or double-slots the F2L.

 

[qqwref]

Someone who mainly talked about chess for their entire reply, mentioned something interesting, that cubing had no competition because you are simply solving the cube and not against anyone else. I had a thought, it could be cool to have a Tennis-Type set-up in the way that you have qualifiying to narrow it down to say 128 people, then you are 1v1 with a solve each and the best average of 12. Could be cool? Just an idea.

This is called a "single elimination tournament". This has been considered as an unofficial side event in a tournament (probably with MUCH fewer people, say the top 16 finishers, and an avg5 where you have to win 3 solves). But cubing can never reasonably be a competition in the sense I was talking about, a player-versus-player thing. No matter how fast you go you can never affect what the other player has to do to finish their solve; the best you can do is beat their time. Nobody will ever have to try different cubing strategies based on their opponent.

 

[Gunnar]

http://www.cubestation.co.uk/cs2/index.php?page=profiles/profile.php&uname=unslaver

"For the record, my turn counting goes like this: "any simultaneous movement of the cube is one turn"."

LMAO

LOL, that's a creative way of improving results. Like if you're video taping a speed solve and then calculate the time used for turning and take that as your time, because it's the real solving time.