Briggs2 (B2) (3x3x3 CP method)

[shadowslice e]

Ok, the D/D' (corner superpostion collapse method) style

This method is a greater improvement to the F/F' style and merges steps 1&2 in the B2 method. It is complex in that it uses pseudopairs in a manner similar to PCMS with the pseudopairs.

Average movecount: ~20

0) inspection- identify the corner set you are working with. This is relatively complex (which is why it is in inspection) basically, work out which corners you will have in DL and DRB by planning pseudopairs and memorising the DBR corner opposite corner.
1a) F3P (first 3 pairs). Essentially, solve pseudopairs in DBL and DFL with the edges correct and the corners off by D/D'. the BR pair can be placed as just the edge as you will already have made a note of the BDR corner. Track the opposite.

1b) Set up for a D/D' to solve CP. You can identify the case by finding what would be solved in DRF. This is easy to spot as it has a separate colour to the rest of the corners. As you have already tracked the opposite of the corner in DBR, you can already identify the case and insert the last corner needed with a sexy, sledgehammer etc depending.

1c) D/D'- Solved CP.

 

[gyroninja]

So we are inserting the last corner with a cpls like alg?

 

[shadowslice e]

So we are inserting the last corner with a cpls like alg?

sort of except it'll be shorter and you already know what the corner is and what to do with it so there'll be no pause for recognition.

 

[2180161]

Soooo when will you have example solves posted? with a more in-depth explanation that is.

 

[shadowslice e]

Soooo when will you have example solves posted? with a more in-depth explanation that is.

I'm thinking of way to better explain it in a video ATM. I'll do some example solves when I get the time but no guarantee when that will be.

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

What do SB and FB mean? I see them a lot but no one has ever defined them.

 

[Jbacboy]

What do SB and FB mean? I see them a lot but no one has ever defined them.

Second Block and First Block. Used in Roux, but many other methods use it too (like this one). Essentially a 1x2x3 block on part of the cube.

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

Second Block and First Block. Used in Roux, but many other methods use it too (like this one). Essentially a 1x2x3 block on part of the cube.

I'm actually surprised I didn't know this, seems so basic... Thanks

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

Do you think this is efficient enough to be a main method? Also, why not just orient the edges during BLS? There may not be that many more cases if you adjust the M slice to reduce cases.

 

[shadowslice e]

Do you think this is efficient enough to be a main method? Also, why not just orient the edges during BLS? There may not be that many more cases if you adjust the M slice to reduce cases.

It is definitely efficient enough though it will take a lot of work to get good at the CP. For BLS, it works out the algs are worse and the recognition is not as nice. Also, IMO, the Arrow case for EO leads to nicer LSE.

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

How about this:
Use an alg to orient the corners (solving them) and place in UR and UL edges, to be left with an easy L4E case.

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

I used to be able to do the CP right but now I can't... I am inserting the last CE of the FB with F, so what am I doing wrong? (I am also doing 2-gen after that)

 

[shadowslice e]

I used to be able to do the CP right but now I can't... I am inserting the last CE of the FB with F, so what am I doing wrong? (I am also doing 2-gen after that)

Are you sure you're lining up the corners in the F face correctly?

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

Are you sure you're lining up the corners in the F face correctly?

Hm I probably missed that, I only used this method a few times so I could have gotten lucky.

 

[wir3sandfir3s]

Yeah still didn't work.

 

[crafto22]

Yeah I still don't understand how the CP in this method works... I really think you should thoroughly explain it in a video or something because right now it makes no sense to me

 

[shadowslice e]

Yeah I still don't understand how the CP in this method works... I really think you should thoroughly explain it in a video or something because right now it makes no sense to me

I'm trying to get around to making a video at some point but haven't found the time yet. It basically comes down to reducing the L6C state to a position in a similar way to Briggs using stuff other than a 3-cycle by using one of 3 things: a sledgehammer, standard insert or a hedgeslammer depending on the corner state. For recognition I will create wills detailed video on what to track

 

[crafto22]

I'm trying to get around to making a video at some point but haven't found the time yet. It basically comes down to reducing the L6C state to a position in a similar way to Briggs using stuff other than a 3-cycle by using one of 3 things: a sledgehammer, standard insert or a hedgeslammer depending on the corner state. For recognition I will create wills detailed video on what to track

Ok, sounds good, thanks!

 

[AlphaP]

Did you/anyone else ever make the video explaining how CPFB works? if so, can someone link me to it?

 

[Sue Doenim]

Quite recently, a new CP in inspection method has been proposed, as I'm sure you know. Do you think this will increase the method's viability? I really don't know, because I just started looking into CP, and can't compare the two. As far as the bad BLS algs go, most of the OLLCP algs with permuted corners are nice; mostly <R, r, U, M>, and could be used with a standard pair insertion.