How do I get sub 15 on 3x3?

[MatejMuzatko]

I've became sub15 by learning full PLL

 

[awesomecuber150]

Well... Starting to see some improvement!
solves/total: 30/30

single
best: 12.25
worst: 19.04

mean of 3
best: 14.21 (σ = 1.70)

avg of 5
best: 14.78 (σ = 0.22)

avg of 12
best: 14.93 (σ = 0.88)

Average: 15.77 (σ = 1.29)
Mean: 15.74

Time List:
1. 17.71
2. 15.06
3. 15.91
4. 15.71
5. 16.50
6. 15.91
7. 14.99
8. 16.28
9. 14.31
10. 14.47
11. 15.93
12. 15.32
13. 15.07
14. 12.25
15. 16.48
16. 17.47
17. 14.53
18. 14.95
19. 13.32
20. 14.87
21. 18.07
22. 17.29
23. 18.19
24. 12.66
25. 19.04
26. 18.27
27. 15.99
28. 15.43
29. 16.67
30. 13.61

Was also nice to see this, had 7 sub 15 times in this average.
avg of 12: 14.93

Time List:
14.31, 14.47, 15.93, 15.32, 15.07, (12.25), 16.48, (17.47), 14.53, 14.95, 13.32, 14.87

 

[Chree]

Look ahead would be a good option, if your brain works like that. Mine doesn't so I don't think I'll ever be able to do look ahead.

However, I do believe that even if you change nothing about the way you solve, you will still very slowly move towards 15 seconds due to your increased efficiency that comes with experience.

Dont be so hard on yourself Johnny! It was over a year before I started to be able to look ahead. One day I was practicing and it literally felt like it just clicked on. Like a switch went off in my head and all of a sudden I could do it. That's how I finally got a sub-20 Ao100.

 

[PJKCuber]

At this point, you should have a few short pauses between each step. The goal to being sub-15 is being able to increase your TPS while also decreasing the amount of time you're spending in between each step. The best way to do this is to eliminate the pauses first. Try and solve without any pauses in your solve, and then slowly increase your speed. When you do start to turn faster, you'll notice that it'll be harder to stop pausing. Try and find a reasonable compromise between the two, and then try and stop pausing with your new TPS.

Eventually, you'll be able to turn quickly without pausing, but that takes lots of effort and time. Don't worry if it doesn't come within a month or two.
For your last layer, make sure you're able to sub-2.5 every PLL. The OLLs are important to have fast, and RECOGNITION IS KEY. Make sure you can predict the OLL or PLL, and don't do a U2 or y2 to see what case you have.

Thank you Ninja Storm

 

[Sadiq]

Sub-15 help

I currently average 17.5 seconds and I am working on my look ahead. I do my cross in about 3 seconds, F2L time fluctuates a lot and so does my last layer. My last layer is pretty dreadful and can take up to 8 seconds. I don't know what to do to improve my last layer and cross.

In short I would like to know what you did to achieve sub-15 and how long did it take? I want to be at 10-12 seconds average by worlds 2015. Any advice? Thanks in advance

 

[Randomno]

How much OLL and PLL do you know?

 

[TDM]

1. Learn PLL
2. Practise F2L
3. Learn OLL
4. Look at F2L reconstructions on cubesolv.es and F2L algs on algdb.net to try to make your F2L more efficient
5. Practise F2L
6. Look for better algs on algdb.net for both OLL and PLL
7. Practise F2L
8. Practise F2L

 

[Chree]

I'm so close to sub-15 I can taste it. And I know exactly what I need to do to get there...

These...

1. Learn PLL
2. Practise F2L
3. Learn OLL
4. Look at F2L reconstructions on cubesolv.es and F2L algs on algdb.net to try to make your F2L more efficient
5. Practise F2L
6. Look for better algs on algdb.net for both OLL and PLL
7. Practise F2L
8. Practise F2L

But in addition to that:

9. Better lookahead
10. Better Cross to F2L transition.

And of course...

11. Practice F2L.

 

[Randomno]

1. Learn PLL

Boo.

3. Learn OLL

Boo-urns.

6. Look for better algs on algdb.net for both OLL and PLL

I have a feeling you might want to do this before learning OLL and PLL.

BTW interestingly I think both "practise" and "practice" work for "Practise F2L".

Other than that, learn OLL and PLL.

 

[Sadiq]

OLL & PLL

I know full PLL and just did an average of 5 and got 4. Something seconds for some of them apart from G perm which was a 2.9 and my U, E, M, Z and A perms are quite quite but the others are horrible. I know about half the OLL's and do them I'm about 3 seconds depending on the case and I realise I need to find better algorithms

 

[Sadiq]

I do the f2l in about 10-13 seconds. That's bad right? I'm working on look ahead and it's hard.

 

[Sadiq]

I already know all PLLs and I'm looking at 3 different speed cubers algorithm and execution, Andrew Ricci, Chris Olson and Steve Cho

 

[nalralz]

Definitely tracking f2l pieces and a sub 2 cross and a 2.5 second cross average of 100.

 

[Thatoneguy2]

Personally I don't think that you need to know full OLL yet, I probably only know around 2/3 of them. Right now I'm trying to get cross and f2l done in under 10 seconds, hopefully I'll be sub 15 once I get that (I average just under 16 right now I think).

 

[dannah]

well how do you get down to 10- 13 seconds?

 

[TDM]

BTW interestingly I think both "practise" and "practice" work for "Practise F2L".

How would practice work? I thought it was a noun, so you could only use practise for this example...

I know full PLL and just did an average of 5 and got 4. Something seconds for some of them apart from G perm which was a 2.9 and my U, E, M, Z and A perms are quite quite but the others are horrible. I know about half the OLL's and do them I'm about 3 seconds depending on the case and I realise I need to find better algorithms

Practise your PLLs. After finding the best algs for you, do them again and again until you can do them all in less than 2 seconds (maybe 2.5 for some of the hardest ones like V/N). After that, practise recognition (maybe do some PLL scrambles on qqTimer - you'd need to do a large average though, an Ao5 is meaningless).

I do the f2l in about 10-13 seconds. That's bad right? I'm working on look ahead and it's hard.

If you want to average sub-15, you want a 9-10 second F2L. You don't want to go above 11 seconds.

I already know all PLLs and I'm looking at 3 different speed cubers algorithm and execution, Andrew Ricci, Chris Olson and Steve Cho

The reason why algdb.net is such a good website is that it saves you the time of searching through lots of websites because everyone submits the algs that they use, meaning everyone's algs are all in one place. You can also see which algs are used by the most people.

 

[Hades139]

Getting Sub-15 on 3x3

Okay, so right now, I have a Moyu Aolong v2 and I use 4LL with intuitive F2l. I average sub 20s. I'd say it takes me 2-5s for cross, 10-15 secs for F2l and 5-10 seconds for LL. Should I learn full PLL? Should I learn F2l algs? What part of my solve should I speed up? Also, my PB is 16.5.

 

[Cube Is Life]

Yes, learn full PLL. Learn F2L algs for awkward/slow cases. Make sure you go slow and look ahead.

 

[ketchuphater999]

Learn & Practice full PLL, every alg sub-3. Practice cross down to <2s. Practice F2L down to <9s, mainly lookahead. Practice LL down to <6s. Practice.

 

[GuRoux]

i would think learning full oll and full pll as well as do a lot of solves would be good enough.