Hi. I am going to a competition on January 3rd, 2015. I only know beginners method but I am working on Corners First/Ortega for 3x3. I want to learn Fridirch Method but from what I can tell you have to learn like 100 algorithms or something. I don't want to be the next world record holder but I still want a decent time like 20-30 each solve. I know basic F2L like how to pair them and such.
Help with solving faster!
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You only need to know like 7 algorithms for CFOP and since you already know how to do F2L you might be able to get sub 30 by switching.
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I don't recommend corners first for fast times. CFOP and Roux are probably the best methods; CFOP only actually requires algorithms for the last layer, and you can do OLL and PLL in two steps each for only a dozen or so algs, and still get good times. With Roux, the only necessary algorithms in the basic method are in CMLL, and you can do that in two steps too. Even with few algorithms, both of these methods can definitely go under 15 seconds.
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You don't need to bump when its only been a few minutes.
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http://www.cubewhiz.com/4lll.php The algorithms (theres only like 15 algs a lot of them are just slight variations or mirror cases if you learn one a day you will know them in two weeks), this is a little more advanced than begginers method but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1xt30vrnfk this can achieve sub 20
Could someone help me?
I would like to be solving within 30-20 seconds. I know a bit of f2l like making pairs and putting them in the slots. If I keep working on this without learning the algorithms will I get faster? I don't want to memorize alot of algorithms. I have been suggest 4 look last layer. Could someone give me a suggestion for memorizing algorithms?
I would like to be solving within 30-20 seconds. I know a bit of f2l like making pairs and putting them in the slots. If I keep working on this without learning the algorithms will I get faster? I don't want to memorize alot of algorithms. I have been suggest 4 look last layer. Could someone give me a suggestion for memorizing algorithms?
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The way I memorize algs is by memorizing the path that one piece follows.
What do you mean by that?
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memorize the algs in chunks. memorize the first move. then the first two moves. then the first three moves. then the first four moves, and so on. once you have a couple algs under your belt you can memorize in two move chunks or three move chunk or 4 move chunks. you'll start finding common sets of move, "triggers," in many of the algs and memorize that as a set. just take it slow. No one expects you to memorize the whole algs looking at it once.
1. I need to know this by January 3rd.
2.What does Fw/lw/uw, and so on mean for algs?
3.What does x mean for algs?
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Please visit a page on WCA notation. BTW you can get sub 30 in 2 months, so just choose Roux/CFOP and practice.
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https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/...-to-Get-Faster-using-the-Fridrich-CFOP-Method
That should help quite a bit
That should help quite a bit
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Learning 15 algorithms is not at all overwhelming. I learned full PLL and a good amount of OLL easily, I just didn't send as much time to learn it all as I should.
But 15 algorithms is honestly nothing, with there being 21 PLL cases and 57 OLL cases. The only PLLs you should learns to begin with are the U perms, the A perms (which with beginners method you should already know one of them), and maybe like on H and Z perm. That's how I started off and I average about mid to low 14 on average.
Trying to learn algorithms can take a matter of minutes, honestly. As long as you practice constantly, you'll get it. And when you're even out in public and what not, carry a cheat sheet on you with pictures of the cases and the algorithms to help you. Start off with 2-Look OLL. It's what beginners should learn first when starting of speed solving. ( https://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/2-Look_OLL ).
One down side to learning more and more algorithms though, is that there are more than one algorithm to one PLL or OLL case. When you get more and more into speed solving, you need to start looking for the best OLL and PLL algorithms that work best for you.
A nice website to get started off speed solvign is Cubewhiz ( http://www.cubewhiz.com/ ). The website gives advanced for 2x2 and 3x3. When you get more advanced and you look for mroe algorithms, try looking at the speed solving wiki for PLL and OLL cases. (PLL: https://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/PLL , OLL: https://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/OLL).
But 15 algorithms is honestly nothing, with there being 21 PLL cases and 57 OLL cases. The only PLLs you should learns to begin with are the U perms, the A perms (which with beginners method you should already know one of them), and maybe like on H and Z perm. That's how I started off and I average about mid to low 14 on average.
Trying to learn algorithms can take a matter of minutes, honestly. As long as you practice constantly, you'll get it. And when you're even out in public and what not, carry a cheat sheet on you with pictures of the cases and the algorithms to help you. Start off with 2-Look OLL. It's what beginners should learn first when starting of speed solving. ( https://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/2-Look_OLL ).
One down side to learning more and more algorithms though, is that there are more than one algorithm to one PLL or OLL case. When you get more and more into speed solving, you need to start looking for the best OLL and PLL algorithms that work best for you.
A nice website to get started off speed solvign is Cubewhiz ( http://www.cubewhiz.com/ ). The website gives advanced for 2x2 and 3x3. When you get more advanced and you look for mroe algorithms, try looking at the speed solving wiki for PLL and OLL cases. (PLL: https://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/PLL , OLL: https://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/OLL).
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Yarco
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You'll need at least 2 look OLL and PLL to get sub-30, I've learned nearly all PLLs and still only sub 40... Unless you can finish your f2l in about 10 seconds.
You're saying you want amazing times but don't want to put in the work or effort to learn the skills needed to achieve it. It doesn't work that way in cubing or in life in general. If you want results , you'll have to sit down for a day or two and learn some algs.
Instead of bumping your own thread, put some effort into hard work rather than waiting for someone to give you some magical answer.
http://cubewhiz.com/4lll.php
You're saying you want amazing times but don't want to put in the work or effort to learn the skills needed to achieve it. It doesn't work that way in cubing or in life in general. If you want results , you'll have to sit down for a day or two and learn some algs.
Instead of bumping your own thread, put some effort into hard work rather than waiting for someone to give you some magical answer.
http://cubewhiz.com/4lll.php
I said at the begging I was wanting to be in the 30s to 20s. Sub 20 would be nice but I most likely won't get it. And who said I was not trying. Its hard memorizing things for me. I looked at tons of tutorials.
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You can easily get good at 15 algs in two months.
