Help with solving faster!

I memorize algs by watching F2L pairs move around. T perm, for example. (R U R' U')(R' F)(R2 U' R' U')(R U R')F'. First trigger takes FR pair out,R' F makes the pair dive in, now turn your attention to FL pair, which has gone to UF. R2 brings 2x2x1 block around, U' R' puts it in FR, U',R U R' takes pair out and back into UF, F' ends the alg. Hope that makes sense.
 
You really just have to force yourself to learn them and the more you learn the easier it gets, figure out a way to separate each alg into 2 or 3 parts you can remember, use flash cards put the pic on one side and the alg on the other and go through them, each time you learn a new one repeat the alg 20 times (or each part 20 times if you remember it in parts) then try to do it with out looking at the alg. I know over 100 algs and I can only right down 10ish try to get them to become muscle memory
 
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First learn the two look PLL, while still using beginners OLL. Then learn two look OLL. Practice F2L a ton. Watch as many example solves as you can. Practice being able to do your cross without looking. Practice, practice, practice.
 
I got to a 23 seconds average in about 2~3 months(starting at a 1 minute average using the beginners method).
First of all learn f2l, this will slow you down allot at first but then once you start practicing it suddenly your times will drop dramatically, after you learned how to solve all 41 f2l cases intuitively learn 2 look oll and after that I would go straight for full pll, unless you don't have that many time learn 2 look pll. learning the oll can be done in 1 or 2 days and pll should take a bit longer. try to do an average of 50 every day and you'll be sub 30 in no time
 
Hmm... Maybe you could first focus on 4LLL, then practice a lot of F2L.

For algs, perhaps you could check out badmephisto's cubing site. The algs are outdated, but it's good enough for sub 30.
 
Hmm... Maybe you could first focus on 4LLL, then practice a lot of F2L.

For algs, perhaps you could check out badmephisto's cubing site. The algs are outdated, but it's good enough for sub 30.
I only use badmephistos algs (actually most of my OLLs are worse) and I average sub 18. I don't even know full PLL, and only half the OLLs.
 
It may sound like the boring option, but to emphazise what has already been said, it is far better to focus on the intuitive parts of your solves; particularly if you learn CFOP or Roux; as opposed to learning exotic or even just the standard alg sets. It will benefit you in the long run rather than learning 2LLL and averaging around 30 because what you will end up doing is having to go through your intuitive stages again whereas you might as well get into the habit of working on optimizing them earlier.

It will also be easier to improve faster from a major alg-needing barrier like sub 15 if your breakdown is favourable:

Note: These breakdowns are exaggerated to illustrate my point, in most cases, a breakdown will be a moderation of each extreme.

Favourable(3 Look last layer but good intuitive section):

Cross: 2 sec
Cross + F2L: 9 sec
OLL 3
PLL 3

Unfavourable(2 Look last layer but bad intuitive section):

Cross 3 sec
Cross + F2L: 11 sec
OLL: 1.5
PLL 1.5 sec

Notice how in favourable breakdowns, the algorithmic parts of the solve are a lot more time-consuming, but the F2L shows signs that the user has a better understanding of how the cube works and has given it due attention. For a solver conforming to this breakdown, the most likely way they will break 15 is by learning 2LLL at this time, when they have a better understanding of the cube and drilling PLLs, which let's face it is pretty easy to do, in the process knocking 2 secs off LL and only a small improvement in F2L, perhaps by learning X-Cross techniques.

However, for a cuber conforming to an unfavourable breakdown, to break this barrier, they will have to drop at least 1 sec off cross and 2-3 secs off F2L, which requires a massive rethink of how you join and insert pairs or how you plan your cross, and the task of making this new approach stick.

In conclusion, you can see how an average of 16-17 can be achieved through a favourable progression or an unfavourable progression. Both these approaches require initially a similar amount of input to get to this point, but an approach focusing on cementing a fast, fluid and efficient intuitive section is positioned to more readily improve than that of someone who relies on advanced alg sets to compensate for neglecting their bad intuitive parts. An analogy could be that building a house from the foundations upwards, starting with getting an efficient cross before learning full OLL is superior to starting off with building a bedroom, then a kitchen and trying to connect the two before trying to slot foundations underneath; or learning full ZBLL at sub 40 whilst still having a 10 second cross.
 
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Go to the Badmphisto.com website for OLL and PLL and for F2L go to cubewhiz.com/f2l.php
 
Thank you Sadiq, I just started solving for time a few months ago. I didn't really start out practicing much, I just thought it was fun to see how fast I could solve it. Then I got a better faster cube and I learned the keyhole method I think it's called. It's where I solve one side but leave a corner open so I can put in the 2nd layer edges before putting in the last corner. But other than that pretty much everything else I do is the beginner layer by layer method, but I have got my all time avg down to about 44 seconds, and my avg of 5 and 10 is usually around 40 seconds now, and my PB has dropped by allot to 26.86 seconds (which yes I realize people is still slow compared to most speedcubers) These sites look like they will be very helpful in improving my times even more.
 
I advise all to look at all POSSIBLE methods before choosing a method. Choose a meffod then stick wif it.
ZZ, Roux <3, Petrus, and Fridrich are all viable options and you will get faster over time. Tis the cuber not the cube or method.
 
There is no need to ever be overwhelmed about learning algorithms, a lot of them are quite similar to ones you should know.
 
Could someone help me?
I would like to be solving within 30-20 seconds. I know a bit of f2l like making pairs and putting them in the slots. If I keep working on this without learning the algorithms will I get faster? I don't want to memorize alot of algorithms. I have been suggest 4 look last layer. Could someone give me a suggestion for memorizing algorithms?

Execute them over and over again...it will take a long time for a beginner to get to sub-30 with little or no algorithms
 
how should I start learning Pll?

I haven't really started to learn Pll yet. Which algorithms are the best to start?
I have already learned H perm, Z perm, and T perm. Where should I go from there?
 
I haven't really started to learn Pll yet. Which algorithms are the best to start?
I have already learned H perm, Z perm, and T perm. Where should I go from there?
U perms
Y perm (similar to T)
J perms (similar to T)
N perms (setup to J perms)
A perms
G perms (very common)
F perm (similar to T)

Those are probably the easiest to learn or the most useful.
 
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