What puzzle do you think the WCA should add next?

[IRNjuggle28]

In regards to "A different puzzle than what we currently see in the WCA"

You can pretty much guess which puzzle I am going to advocate in this scenario.

I like that idea, and lots of people here do. But before asking to make it an official WCA event, prove that it works. Why don't you try to organize something? Talk to Ben or Soup or qqwref or someone about it. It doesn't have to be an official WCA event. Start unofficial competitions. They can be competitions in person, with physical slidy puzzles, or they can be some sort of online slidysim comp. Either one. If comps are a success, and you get a big enough number of participants, and the cubing and sliding communities overlap enough, you'll have a much better case for making it an official event. Right now, there isn't much support for making it official. Even Ben said he didn't think it was a good idea, or maybe he was only talking about official slidysim, not official realslidypuzzle. Not sure.

 

[Michael Womack]

I like that idea, and lots of people here do. But before asking to make it an official WCA event, prove that it works. Why don't you try to organize something? Talk to Ben or Soup or qqwref or someone about it. It doesn't have to be an official WCA event. Start unofficial competitions. They can be competitions in person, with physical slidy puzzles, or they can be some sort of online slidysim comp. Either one. If comps are a success, and you get a big enough number of participants, and the cubing and sliding communities overlap enough, you'll have a much better case for making it an official event. Right now, there isn't much support for making it official. Even Ben said he didn't think it was a good idea, or maybe he was only talking about official slidysim, not official realslidypuzzle. Not sure.

if it was the Slidysim we all know who is the fastest and that would be LoLBen(Ben Whitmore)

 

[IRNjuggle28]

if it was the Slidysim we all know who is the fastest and that would be LoLBen(Ben Whitmore)

Oh, I have a feeling Ben is the fastest regardless of whether it's a simulator or a real puzzle. Maybe if Moyu or someone makes a decent 15 puzzle people will actually practice it and we'll know.

What's your opinion on having official sliding puzzle competitions?

 

[Deleted member 19792]

I'm a bit faster than Ben on physical puzzle. [Still need to make a video]

The metal physical puzzles are really good after break in [They are good out of the box, but they are all different, so add some lube]


I can write attempt to write up a proposal with the work of soup, Ben, and qqwref.

 

[tseitsei]

Please explain how are slidy puzzles considered "rubiks puzzles" or "twisty puzzles" all of a sudden? WCA only organizes those two types of events. That is clearly said in the regs...

 

[AvGalen]

It was also clearly said in the regs that there was no skewb-event. Things can change

 

[guysensei1]

It was also clearly said in the regs that there was no skewb-event. Things can change

It was explicitly stated that skewb was NOT an event some time ago?

 

[tseitsei]

It was also clearly said in the regs that there was no skewb-event. Things can change

Changing some regs is one thing and changing the whole definition of WCA is another one...

Also

It was explicitly stated that skewb was NOT an event some time ago?

If so that's quite weird and funny

 

[AvGalen]

It was explicitly stated that skewb was NOT an event some time ago?

9b of the regulations said which events there were. Skewb was not mentioned so it was not an event.

 

[AlGoreRhythm]

15-puzzle would be pretty cool. There's already a thread discussing adding it as an official event.

 

[Michael Womack]

15-puzzle would be pretty cool. There's already a thread discussing adding it as an official event.

I don't think it's worth having it as an event cause of how hard the scrambles will be to read and understand. Also not everyone is wiling to participate in it or buy that puzzle. Plus it's just a stupid puzzle that has been around for many many years before the Rubik's cube 3x3 that started all of the Twisty puzzles. All of the current events are of puzzles that are a 3d Twisty type puzzle.

 

[AlGoreRhythm]

Plus it's just a stupid puzzle

Okay. I had no idea people thought it was so stupid. I'm sorry for stating my opinion.

All of the current events are of puzzles that are a 3d Twisty type puzzle.

I know a lot of people are against clock, too, but technically it isn't a 3d twisty type puzzle.

Also not everyone is wiling to participate in it or buy that puzzle.

Not everyone is willing to buy or participate in events like skewb, 7x7, clock, and megaminx either. Your point?

the Rubik's cube 3x3 that started all of the Twisty puzzles

If I remember correctly, the Rubik's Cube popularized twisty puzzles, not started them all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik's_Cube#Prior_attempts

 

[TDM]

I don't think it's worth having it as an event cause of how hard the scrambles will be to read and understand.

They wouldn't be hard to read if you had them split into groups of 5ish moves. I don't see how it would be hard to understand scrambling notation at all.

Also not everyone is wiling to participate in it or buy that puzzle.

Couldn't you say that about every event there is?

Plus it's just a stupid puzzle

Why?

that has been around for many many years before the Rubik's cube 3x3 that started all of the Twisty puzzles.

I don't see why that should mean it can't be included as an official event.

All of the current events are of puzzles that are a 3d Twisty type puzzle.

Is clock a twisty puzzle?

 

[tseitsei]

Is clock a twisty puzzle?

It's a borderline case for me.
It kind of isn't, BUT it kind of is because you still twist the "scrolls" or whatever those things are called to twist the clocks to different positions...

Slidy puzzle on the other hand is not a twisty puzzle in any sense.

(+ I think clock doesn't really fit WCA either)

 

[AlGoreRhythm]

Quote Originally Posted by Michael Womack View Post
I don't think it's worth having it as an event cause of how hard the scrambles will be to read and understand.
They wouldn't be hard to read if you had them split into groups of 5ish moves. I don't see how it would be hard to understand scrambling notation at all.
Also not everyone is wiling to participate in it or buy that puzzle.
Couldn't you say that about every event there is?
Plus it's just a stupid puzzle
Why?
that has been around for many many years before the Rubik's cube 3x3 that started all of the Twisty puzzles.
I don't see why that should mean it can't be included as an official event.
All of the current events are of puzzles that are a 3d Twisty type puzzle.
Is clock a twisty puzzle?

I don't quite know how to say this, but I had a reply that looked almost exactly like this, to this thread, but now i't's gone.

Seriously, it's kinda weird.

 

[Ranzha]

15 puzzle is a cool puzzle. It's fun and easy to solve, difficult to physically solve quickly, and would open the door to new types of thinking about puzzle-solving.
This said, I don't believe it falls under the realm of the WCA as it exists currently.
However, who's the say the "authority" (can't think of a better word) of the WCA can't change to include slidy puzzles? But then, would the term "World Cube Association" still be reasonably accurate?

I don't quite know how to say this, but I had a reply that looked almost exactly like this, to this thread, but now i't's gone.

Seriously, it's kinda weird.

I don't see anything here.

Also: What is wrong with Team BLD?

 

[Michael Womack]

What is wrong with Team BLD?

A few big problems I see here is that:
Who gets the time put onto there WCA profile?
and How are we going to set it up so that the team BLD won't affect the solves of other teams.?

 

[Bindedsa]

This said, I don't believe it falls under the realm of the WCA as it exists currently.
However, who's the say the "authority" (can't think of a better word) of the WCA can't change to include slidy puzzles? But then, would the term "World Cube Association" still be reasonably accurate?

clock, pyraminx and megaminx are not cubes.

 

[guysensei1]

clock, pyraminx and megaminx are not cubes.

V cube 7...

 

[Michael Womack]

V cube 7...

The definition of a cube is a Polyhedron(3d shape) that is composed of 6 square faces with 12 edges and 8 corners. So technically it's a cube by the definition I gave but does not have flat faces like the SS 7x7 does.