What puzzle do you think the WCA should add next?

[henrysavich]

Good point! With the execution speed of some people now I don't think speedblinders will be much faster than normal blinders. The normal blinders will only use 15 seconds to "inspect" while the speedblinders will need "a dozen minutes" only to be a few seconds faster at most. This basically makes speedblind even more of a non-event in my eyes

i think that the SpeedBLD'ers will be really good Blind Solver. I think what would happen if the event was added is the most popular method would be 2-3 premoves followed by a normal BLD solve with an exceptionally lucky scramble. Also, not every Blind solver has the same memo:execution ratio. So the fastest blind solver doesn't necessarily have the fastest execution.

I would like to see speedBLD as an event, especially for new BLD'ers who spend more memo time than execution.

 

[tseitsei]

SpeedBLD doesn't really bring anything new to solving. You just have to do the really boring/long memorizing stage and then solve with any speedsolving method you choose. And the winner will be anyone decent enough in tracking pieces (fridrich solve for example is quite easy to do by tracking one piece at the time. It just takes a while) and just spamming crazy TPS in execution.

So the event would basically be just about TPS because any decent cuber can come up with a speedsolving solution if given enough time. And I think there should be 2 sides to every speedsolving event: 1. how fast is your mind and 2. how fast are your hands.

Even for 2x2 it takes so much skill to 1-look solves most of the time that not many people can do it so there still is this "how fast is your mind"-element involved. But I think that in SpeedBLD there would be (almost) only "how fast your hands are"-element. Especially when considering better than average cubers competing in the event.

4x4 fewest moves and 4x4 one-handed please!!!!!!!!!

LOL. 4x4 fewest moves would take too long time... One hour isn't that much even for 3x3FMC so 4x4 would need maybe 3 hours and at least 2 hours.
I have sometimes done 4x4FMC for fun tough (without time limit) and it's quite interesting. Just not very good idea to make it official (for the same reason I think 6&7bld must remain unofficial. Interesting but too time consuming).

i think that the SpeedBLD'ers will be really good Blind Solver. 1.I think what would happen if the event was added is the most popular method would be 2-3 premoves followed by a normal BLD solve with an exceptionally lucky scramble. Also, not every Blind solver has the same memo:execution ratio. So the fastest blind solver doesn't necessarily have the fastest execution.

2.I would like to see speedBLD as an event, especially for new BLD'ers who spend more memo time than execution.

1. NO. Just no. It would be much faster to just plan a speedsolve solution than use BLD method. Not even the fastest BLD solvers have sub-10 execution speeds and MANY 3x3 "eyes-open solvers" have easily achieved sub-10. Also "eyes-open solvers" should be even faster in speedBLD because no lookahead is needed because the whole solution is memorized.

2. I don't understand the point of this. Why couldn't new BLD'ers just do normal BLD even if their memo takes longer?

 

[LucidCuber]

The only one's I think should MAYBE be added are the megaminx variants (Kilomix, Gigaminx) but even then I think things are fine for now.

 

[cubingallday]

I don't know if this idea is already posted, but I find Skewb OH pretty fun.

 

[Joey VOV]

I'm so tired of hearing sill suggestions like "2x2 OH, 4x4 FMC" and common variants of the standard NxNxN puzzles. If we add anything else, which right now, I do not think we should, it should be completely different than what we see in the current WCA puzzles. No 2x2 multibld, super square-1, gigaminx, none of that.

 

[JasonDL13]

I'm so tired of hearing sill suggestions like "2x2 OH, 4x4 FMC"

I think it's at least fair to add Skewb one-foot multiple blindfolded fewest moves.

 

[Mikel]

I think it's at least fair to add Skewb one-foot multiple blindfolded fewest moves.

How would you even rank a multiple blindfolded fewest moves event?

 

[JasonDL13]

How would you even rank a multiple blindfolded fewest moves event?

I've never thought of that until now.

It's how many cubes you solved, tie-breaker is how many turns it took for all of them, tie-breaker is time. I guess.

 

[megaminxwin]

A challenge fewest average 2x2 move may seem ridiculous but none cuber control perfectly the corner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh5miheTXjQ

Those are words.

 

[Deleted member 19792]

In regards to "A different puzzle than what we currently see in the WCA"

You can pretty much guess which puzzle I am going to advocate in this scenario.

 

[Ollie]

In regards to "A different puzzle than what we currently see in the WCA"

You can pretty much guess which puzzle I am going to advocate in this scenario.

On that basis you could suggest anything vaguely puzzle related.

 

[Deleted member 19792]

1000 piece puzzle from the supermarket BLD.

 

[G2013]

200th post!!

Bigger cubes. I want to see people's time. And also 2x2 FMC.

 

[tseitsei]

My question for this thread: Why should WCA add a new events anymore?

I think current events are more than enough. Very hard to fit all events in to a 2 day comp already.

Also I think most (if not all) events discussed in this thread are at least one of the following:
1. Not bringing much (or anything) new to the solving concept (ex. relays, bigger cubes, kilo/gigaminx, 4x4OH etc etc...)
2. Take too long to be official (ex. bigger cubes, gigaminx, 6/7BLD, 4x4FMC etc...)
3. Are not really "twisty puzzles" and shouldn't be held by WCA (ex. slidy puzzles, and from current event I think clock falls to this category also but I have no strong opinion for its removal)

So I think current events are quite well balanced. No need to fix something that isn't broken...

 

[TDM]

My question for this thread: Why should WCA add a new events anymore?

I don't think so either. I was asking myself earlier today, "why is this thread still here?" Because none of these are going to be added.

 

[Michael Womack]

I don't think so either. I was asking myself earlier today, "why is this thread still here?" Because none of these are going to be added.

I agree. The only reason why a new event is added are cause of these:
1. popularity of the puzzle
2. scramble type
3. average solve time
4. how easy is it for the cubers to buy the puzzle
5. rules of what versions are allowed
6. the turning quality of the puzzle.
and a few other thing.

An example is that the 3x3x2 is a very affordable puzzle that can be bought from most cube stores and the scramble notation can be easily read and understood plus the 3x3x2 can be solved under 1:30 min. While the 17x17x17 is only on shapeways with the price that is over $1000 and the scrambles would be very very long and hard to understand. If where to speedsolve the 17x17x17 it would take me about 5 hours to solve it. So to sum it up you would have to consider allot of things about the puzzle in order to make it an official WCA event.

 

[Cubo largo]

Well I would prefer surely the 3x3x5 than the 3x3x2. It's more complete and allows to create a wider set of strategies.

 

[PixelWizard]

http://tobipch.github.io/Cublog//general/wca/event/future/2014/09/16/Next-WCA-Event.html

 

[Renslay]

http://tobipch.github.io/Cublog//general/wca/event/future/2014/09/16/Next-WCA-Event.html

"Collaboration 3x3 Solve" That just sounds ridiculous (as a WCA event). 1) Method preference? Huh? 2) How do you judge the change was after one substep (and not two for example, and saying "ah, that was only a skip")? Nah, you didn't mean that seriously.

 

[GuRoux]

"Collaboration 3x3 Solve" That just sounds ridiculous (as a WCA event). 1) Method preference? Huh? 2) How do you judge the change was after one substep (and not two for example, and saying "ah, that was only a skip")? Nah, you didn't mean that seriously.

what about one guy is the right hand and the other guy the left hand. i guess people would just do OH instead.