ZZ is Better Than CFOP

[Xatu]

totally agree

 

[Luke Solves Cubes]

fear not, tis sarcasm
(well, you can get to around 10 with most methods. Doesn't mean everyone should quit.)

Even Beginners,

EDIT: Just realized you said most.

 

[PapaSmurf]

As someone who has made ZZ a little bit more popular, and helped make EOCross the mainstream, I can confirm that for the first four years of cubing, I had no idea what I was doing. I ended up getting about sub 13 with EOLine and didn't learn a lot of ZBLL. When I switched to EOCross and learnt some ZBLLs, I got better. I now average low 9s (I was sub 9 for a little period, but more important life things happened), but I'm pretty sure I could be averaging low 7s if I started now. The amount of development that has gone into EOCross ZZ is insane. The F2L solutions, strategies for planning CN EOCross, the ZBLLs algs - every aspect of the solve has been developed. The fact that RadMac improved to low 6 so quickly is just one of many proofs that this method has potential. Yoruba has mentioned his 7.98 average, and I can confirm that that has come from proper practicing. If Hyeon switched to ZZ now, he would probably be a bit faster, as there is more advice, more development. What ZZ needs is RadMac to compete and also one person to do ZZ justice. It's not that ZZ is bad, it's that there simply hasn't been the development nor the people to push it. The few examples we have are proof that there is that potential to compete at the top level. You can now choose to be a normie and continue with CFOP, or you could be an absolute chad and be cracked with ZZ.