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[TDM]

Find any proof that he isn't.

There isn't any proof either way, but you can't say he's lying when you have no proof for it. I'm not saying he's definitely telling the truth, because I can't... but you also can't say he is lying without proof.

I say pink flying unicorns exist.

Now go find some evidence they don't.

See, it doesn't work that way. The one who makes the claim needs to provide the evidence in order for people to believe it.


He says something amazing and hard to believe: "I have world class times"
That's why he needs some evidence for most people to believe him. Most of the time it's also much easier to prove there IS something than that there ISN'T something...

Evidence is that nobody has seen one or has found a fossil etc. of one. I don't have any proof though; proof and evidence are different.
I'm not going to read through all his posts, but I doubt he ever said that. I am not saying he is telling the truth; I'm saying you can't say he isn't.

 

[tseitsei]

There isn't any proof either way, but you can't say he's lying when you have no proof for it. I'm not saying he's definitely telling the truth, because I can't... but you also can't say he is lying without proof.

Evidence is that nobody has seen one or has found a fossil etc. of one. I don't have any proof though; proof and evidence are different.
I'm not going to read through all his posts, but I doubt he ever said that. I am not saying he is telling the truth; I'm saying you can't say he isn't.

Sorry about the evidence and proof stuff. English is not my native language, but you get the point.

As for the bolded part:
I'm not saying pink flying unicorns exist. I'm saying you can't say pink flying unicorns don't exist.

And that's why he is the one who needs to come up with the proof/evidence/something like that...

 

[Petro Leum]

lying or not, this makes me want to go and learn more ZZLL algorithms.

i'd be really interested in seeing someone with legitimate full ZBLL. ZZLL is already tricky enough as is for me to buckle down and finish (although completely do-able IMO). And with actual decent recognition too.

I actually just finished editing eastamazonantidote's ZZLL algorithm file so that it
1. has all the cases
2. has two columns for onehanded/twohanded algs
3. the alg fields are empty, so i can just enter my preferred algorithms.

I so far know 42/169 algorithms. thats a good quarter :>
next days ill start learning them set-by-set.
What really annoys me is that when im done with it and actually only use phasing + ZZLL, many of the ZBLLs and COLLs which i have already learned and which are good, wont be used and i most likely will forget them/becoem slow with them over time

Sorry about the evidence and proof stuff. English is not my native language, but you get the point.

As for the bolded part:
I'm not saying pink flying unicorns exist. I'm saying you can't say pink flying unicorns don't exist.

And that's why he is the one who needs to come up with the proof/evidence/something like that...

disagree, because he isnt competing with anyone. why would he have to come up with a proof? all he did was ask for help learning zz and included some background info, as stated in the original post.

 

[tseitsei]

disagree, because he isnt competing with anyone. why would he have to come up with a proof? all he did was ask for help learning zz and included some background info, as stated in the original post.

He doesn't have to come up with proof but if he doesn't he has no reason to be upset if people doubt him and his times

 

[TDM]

I'm saying you can't say pink flying unicorns don't exist.

I agree entirely with this part. But this is more believable than pink flying unicorns. As suspicious as his behaviour may be (in that he isn't giving a video), everything else I remember reading does make it look like he could actually be sub-10 with ZB.

 

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so did this guy ever make a video? no? what a surprise

 

[Petro Leum]

He doesn't have to come up with proof but if he doesn't he has no reason to be upset if people doubt him and his times

He has a reason to be upset that people are cluttering his thread with irrelevant posts.

Especially since around 1337 people have posted literally the same "i doubt it, would be cool, video pl0x".

One or two would have been enough.

Guess this thread is over no matter what so after 16 pages there is no real "offtopic" anymore. lets just discuss american government, cant we?

 

[aznanimedude]

I actually just finished editing eastamazonantidote's ZZLL algorithm file so that it
1. has all the cases
2. has two columns for onehanded/twohanded algs
3. the alg fields are empty, so i can just enter my preferred algorithms.

Which file is this. Could I get it? I made on originally by I'm curious how that one is formatted.

I've been super lazy with it I should have been done last year at least haha. Been trying to motivate myself to finish for at least 2 years now probably

 

[mDiPalma]

"criticism" is not synonymous with "ripping apart"

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/tear+apart

definition 4 (the only relevant one)

 

[Petro Leum]

Which file is this. Could I get it? I made on originally by I'm curious how that one is formatted.

I've been super lazy with it I should have been done last year at least haha. Been trying to motivate myself to finish for at least 2 years now probably

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?18172-Happy-New-Year!-Also-ZBLL-Algorithms

this is where i got the nicely formatted sheets for ZBLL/ZZLL. If you want my personal edited version for whatever reason, pm me.

 

[Kirjava]

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/tear+apart

definition 4 (the only relevant one)

Modifying a word with an adjective modifies the meaning and in this case breaks synonymity.

 

[mDiPalma]

Modifying a word with an adjective modifies the meaning and in this case breaks synonymity.

Look at the adjective being employed though: "mercilessly".

That is clearly "without mercy," mercy being "a disposition to be kind and forgiving."

The posts I referenced (especially scottishcuber's) were definitely mercilessly critical.

 

[rowan]

On an irrelevant note: this thread has been highly amusing.

Look at the adjective being employed though: "mercilessly".

That is clearly "without mercy," mercy being "a disposition to be kind and forgiving."

The posts I referenced (especially scottishcuber's) were definitely mercilessly critical.

You're clearly arguing to just to argue, and it shows. You should amend your post to say *only* scottishcuber's (and maybe ottozoing and uvafan). Most of the people on here were skeptical but hopeful that the times were true, I would consider that to be forgiving (inb4 another dictionary definition). I don't think anyone on this forum owes someone a kind disposition and the forum rules don't require it. If you wanted some way to discredit Kirjava's posts, you should have picked another post, for greater efficacy.

 

[Kirjava]

Look at the adjective being employed though: "mercilessly"

That is clearly "without mercy," mercy being "a disposition to be kind and forgiving"

The posts I referenced (especially scottishcuber's) were definitely mercilessly critical.

It's possible to be neither merciless or merciful in a state of neutralness, just because something doesn't show mercy doesn't mean that it is cruel.

While merciless may be taken literally as "without mercy", there are connotations that it entails the opposite of mercy, possible implications of malice?

While ostensibly the suffix appears to denote a literal lack, it is functionally used as more of a negation.

You wouldn't describe every concept lacking the attribute as "merciless". Doing so is a poor use of language.

This really just boils down to a disagreement on the severity of people's behaviour in this thread. We are both aware of this and the current discussion is superfluous.

Happy to pander though.