Yuxin 17x17x17

[FireCuber]

I'm the kind of person who would save up for it, buy it, re-sticker it with my prefered shades (if it comes in black), solve it no more than five times, then re-release it for £20 less than it's worth, lol.

Just to say to people 'yeah, I solved a 17x17!'

Wow....cool! How much do think it is?

 

[Tyler Comfy Hat]

Wow....cool! How much do think it is?

I was just joking around, how should I know?

 

[FireCuber]

I was just joking around, how should I know?

Too bad, Do you know of anyone who knows how much it would be?

 

[vm70]

Too bad, Do you know of anyone who knows how much it would be?

That's epic. Wonder how much it'll cost...

I predict $320.

TIME TO BREAK OUT THE MATH (or maths).
Here's a shot in the dark for you. Please note that I am bad at statistics.
I looked up all of the WCA products and higher-order cube products YuXin makes on The Cubicle, and gave them each a point on the graph with the y-value being their price in USD. I then found a line of best fit. The best one I found was a polynomial function, with R^2 being 0.988. (R^2 is a value between 0 and 1 that shows how much the trendline correlates with the data. The closer to 1, the better.)

According to these calculations, the 17x17 that YuXin is releasing will be available on the Cubicle for a whopping price of $393.77 USD. Maybe more, maybe less. This is just an educated guess.

In comparison, Oskar's 17x17x17 is $275.90 + 6($395.00) = $2645.90 USD. That's about 6.7 times as expensive as my guess for the cube price.

For those who don't live in the US, here's the conversions as of typing this. Numbers will most likely not be the actual price.
$393.77 USD (US Dollars)
$524.75 CAD (CA Dollars)
£318.20 (British Pounds)
₹25725.11 (Indian Rupees)
¥2719.30 (Chinese Yuan)
¥44254.24 (Japanese Yen)
€393.77 (Euro)
EDIT: add more people wondering what it costs, spelling errors, math errors.

 

[Chree]

TIME TO BREAK OUT THE MATH (or maths).
Here's a shot in the dark for you. Please note that I am bad at statistics.
I looked up all of the WCA products and higher-order cube products YuXin makes on The Cubicle, and gave them each a point on the graph with the y-value being their price in USD. I then found a line of best fit. The best one I found was a polynomial function, with R^2 being 0.988. (R^2 is a value between 0 and 1 that shows how much the trendline correlates with the data. The closer to 1, the better.)

According to these calculations, the 17x17 that YuXin is releasing will be available on the Cubicle for a whopping price of $393.77 USD. Maybe more, maybe less. This is just an educated guess.

In comparison, Oskar's 17x17x17 is $275.90 + 6($395.00) = $2645.90 USD. That's about 6.7 times as expensive as my guess for the cube price.
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For those who don't live in the US, here's the conversions as of typing this. Numbers will most likely not be the actual price.
$393.77 USD (US Dollars)
$524.75 CAD (CA Dollars)
£318.20 (British Pounds)
₹25725.11 (Indian Rupees)
¥2719.30 (Chinese Yuan)
¥44254.24 (Japanese Yen)
€393.77 (Euro)
EDIT: add more people wondering what it costs, spelling errors, math errors.

Hahaha... epic.

 

[Tyler Comfy Hat]

[statistics]

Very nice, but are you sure the original 11x11 should be counted, considering how much older it is than the rest (and that it very likely isn't even manufactured anymore since the Huanglong)?

 

[FireCuber]

Thanks for all the information guys!!

 

[vm70]

Very nice, but are you sure the original 11x11 should be counted, considering how much older it is than the rest (and that it very likely isn't even manufactured anymore since the Huanglong)?

That is a good consideration, but The Cubicle still sells (versions of) this cube. Of course, buying the new 11x11 is a much more obvious choice because it's less expensive (except pink stickerless doesn't do justice to me).
Here's the math without it.
Taking out the outdated old YuXin 11x11 changes the trendline to 1.655x^2 + 6.976x + 13.299, with an R^2 of 0.986.
A 17x17 according to this would be $373.01 USD (using ceiling function because of economics).

 

[One Wheel]

If you only use the most recent releases for each value of n there's a nice (albeit short) trendline for 6-11, even layered puzzles above the line and odd layered below it. I'm having trouble crunching the numbers on my phone, but that's another way to look at the data.

EDIT: my methodology is probably suspect (approximate linear trendline for $/n^2) but here are my predicted prices for hypothetical future yuxin big cube releases:
12x12: $174
13x13: $185
14x14: $240
15x15: $249
16x16: $315
17x17: $325
18x18: $405
19x19: $420
20x20: $510
21x21: $520

 

[Tony Fisher]

New photos.

 

[Tony Fisher]

If I had one, I'd have included it off the bat. Like I said, that's just what I remember hearing. I'd love to know for sure though...

ADDENDUM: More specifically, I heard it in a thread on here a while ago that I can't seem to find now.

I have confirmation that the 15x15x15 is still being worked on.

 

[One Wheel]

http://zcube.vip/YuXin-171717

 

[Reed Merrill]

A. Do you really think it will be that cheap?
B. $8/hr x 20 hrs/week x 9 weeks is $1440. You could probably get a summer job and pick up that kind of cash easily by the time this is released. I, on the other hand, have bills to pay.

Is $8/hr a normal wage for a summer job (for someone young) where you live? In Alberta our minimum wage is 13.60/hr, but our dollar is also less valuable by about 30%

 

[Tabe]

Is $8/hr a normal wage for a summer job (for someone young) where you live? In Alberta our minimum wage is 13.60/hr, but our dollar is also less valuable by about 30%

In a lot of places in the US, yes, $8 is a normal wage for a summer job.

 

[One Wheel]

Is $8/hr a normal wage for a summer job (for someone young) where you live? In Alberta our minimum wage is 13.60/hr, but our dollar is also less valuable by about 30%

Yes. In general where I'm at a part-time cash manual labor job would pay around $8/hour for a high-schooler, $10/hour for an adult or a high-schooler who works like one. Some employers may be exceptionally generous and pay as much as $15/hour, some jobs (babysitting, for example) might only pay $7 or even $6/hour.

 

[Tony Fisher]

$762.55 listed price but it comes down to $606.99 when added to cart and others say it can go lower if you've ordered before (or something).

 

[cuber314159]

$762.55 listed price but it comes down to $606.99 when added to cart and others say it can go lower if you've ordered before (or something).

Is it available anywhere else yet

 

[Tony Fisher]

Is it available anywhere else yet

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...994.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.3bf6df01zH9yN7

 

[TipsterTrickster]

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...994.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.3bf6df01zH9yN7

Cool, and it’s “only” $599 there.

 

[One Wheel]

Cool, and it’s “only” $599 there.

That's actually remarkably inexpensive. A standard stickerless 3x3 has 89 pieces (77 plastic). This has, I think, 1,767 (1,755 plastic), ignoring caps on capped pieces. At $599 for this, a stickerless 3x3 at the same price per piece would be about $26-30, depending on whether you count screws, springs, and washers. If you figure price per type of piece a 3x3 has 5 shapes of plastic pieces whereas this has 66 (again ignoring caps). That comes to about $45.38 for a 3x3. On the high end, yes, but at least as much R&D went into this as into any 3x3. I'm sure there's also a premium because it's the biggest on the market, but by my figures probably not nearly as much a premium as moyu charged for their 13x13.