wikipedia campaign to remove Erik and Faz

[danthecuber]

Not only does speedsolving have a wiki, but there is speedcubing in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedcubing

Also these people are there too.

 

[uberCuber]

Duplicate post

and then you double posted

.............

On topic, I am fine with individual pages about Erik and Faz being removed, for reasons that I will not bother restating because they were stated by others earlier in the thread.

 

[ben1996123]

If they are already there, why delete them?

 

[danthecuber]

If they are already there, why delete them?

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A very objective answer.

 

[uberCuber]

@danthecuber, your last post says that it was edited, so you obviously know of the existence of the edit button. Can you please use it instead of double posting? Apparently you didn't catch that from my last post.


anyway, @ben, in Wikipedia's deletion policy (that danthecuber linked to above) is a link to the Wikipedia guideline article on Notability. Give that a read through

 

[hic2482w]

So frank morris can have a page, but the person who has DESTROYED all 3x3 WRs can't?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Morris_(cube_solver)

 

[danthecuber]

So frank morris can have a page, but the person who has DESTROYED all 3x3 WRs can't?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Morris_(cube_solver)

again, Frank Morris is among these people who have pages
also Faz not just has the 3x3x3WR, but also 2x2x2, 4x4x4, and 5x5x5WRs, owning all single and Average WRs except 2x2x2 single (held by Erik)

 

[PatrickJameson]

AvGalen is a Super Moderator, so he must know of the edit button too, yet he didn't use it on his duplicate post.

Duplicate posts happen sometimes because of lag of either parties or for whatever other reason. Sometimes you don't notice. Now let's stop getting completely off topic.

Edit: Oh the irony of you posting twice in a row within a minute of each other. Also I'll delete any off topic posts after this.

 

[Kirjava]

Nah, his recog is pretty good.

 

[Specs112]

Well, we haven't got any sources other than WCA really. And that's a big no on BLPs. Now I would assume that the non-cubing public has at least put something in the news.
*searches*
Here's two articles, for example.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...biks-cube-genius/story-e6frf7kx-1225720004320
http://www.shishirk.com/2010/11/feliks-zemdegs-aussie-teen-breaks-rubiks-cube-world-record/
A bit outdated, but yeah, just put those (or other stuff that we can find) into the article, cite them properly, and the sources from outside our community should establish notability.

 

[danthecuber]

Nah, his recog is pretty good.

Clarify Please.

 

[ElectricDoodie]

If they are already there, why delete them?

Not only is there a rule for it, but seriously?
Your logic: If it's there, there is absolutely no reason to delete something.

 

[Specs112]

Not only is there a rule for it, but seriously?
Your logic: If it's there, there is absolutely no reason to delete something.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Inclusionism

 

[Kirjava]

Clarify Please.

the post I was replying to was deleted.

YOU WILL NEVER KNOW

 

[ElectricDoodie]

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Inclusionism

Wow, that was really interesting. Never knew that existed.

 

[Specs112]

I've added a comment on Faz's AFD (regular Wikipedian here). This isn't really the sort of thing that gets deleted, since we do have sources.
Will be watching the page.

 

[ElectricDoodie]

I've added a comment on Faz's AFD (regular Wikipedian here). This isn't really the sort of thing that gets deleted, since we do have sources.
Will be watching the page.

Since you're a regular Wikipedian, can you answer something? If I have personal knowledge about someone, and I want to add it, but I don't have linkable sources, just personal experiences with them, can I add that, or will it get deleted?

Because, I tried to add information to someone who has a Wiki, from when we were in highschool, and it all got deleted.

 

[Kian]

It's based on the number of views of the page. It's not personal. Wiki does an unbelievable job.

 

[Specs112]

Since you're a regular Wikipedian, can you answer something? If I have personal knowledge about someone, and I want to add it, but I don't have linkable sources, just personal experiences with them, can I add that, or will it get deleted?

Because, I tried to add information to someone who has a Wiki, from when we were in highschool, and it all got deleted.

That would be original research, and possibly a conflict of interest. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOR. I'm not surprised it was deleted.
Wikipedia articles are supposed to be based on secondary sources.

 

[CubeLTD]

Are you serious? Maybe because Faz didn't create a method to solve the cube?
Although I believe that Faz should be on there, comparing the 2 is ridiculous.

"Jessica Fridrich is the inventor of the most commonly-used method for speed-solving."
The creator of a method should have a Wiki page, way more than someone who gets WRs.

Agreed.

Fridich= Inventor of Fridich Method
Faz= WR Holder USING the method created by the above person.

If I have to be objective, I kinda agree with Wikipedia. Having multiple pages for WR Holders seem pointless. The best Idea would to add a sub heading in the Speedcubing page of Wikipedia, and List the WR Holder, the Record they hold, and the short bio.

No offense to Faz or Erik of course.