Who's fast with visual memo?

[Lucas Garron]

I am definitely sub-2 with visual memo on 3x3x3 BLD, sometimes sub-1:30. I can even get sub-2 with freestyle edges.
And on 4x4x4, I can get sub-10 with very few mistakes (and, like, sub-4 on a good memo now), even though I get horribly close DNF's. I was so close to 3rd in the world...
And I think that though visual may be slower, it doesn't detract from accuracy so much.

I haven't heard of anyone who's gotten sub-2 without adopting a non-visual memo system for most of the cube. I think Leyan might, depending on what you consider "weird shapey things"...
Does anybody know of other (preferably fast-ish) people who still use visual memo? Does anybody else even do 4x4x4 and 5x5x5 visually?
(Am I missing someone obvious?)

 

[watermelon]

Am I missing someone obvious?

Yes ! Rowe Hessler uses pure visual memorization for 3x3 and big cube BLD. Although he uses stories for multi-BLD, they are purely freestyle (no predetermined images, letter combos, etc.).

 

[alexc]

Am I missing someone obvious?

Yes! Rowe Hessler uses pure visual memorization for 3x3 and big cube BLD. Although he uses stories for multi-BLD, they are purely freestyle (no predetermined images, letter combos, etc.).

That's cause Rowe uses pure 3 cycle, which is easy to memorize with visual method.

 

[malcolm]

I use visual for corners, but numbers for edges because i find using two different methods is easier. Corners takes me around 30 sec to memo both orientation and permutation, and I use pure Macky.

 

[LarsN]

My best 3x3 blind was done purely visuel memo, but I'm working on a new memo for edges that I call "Worlds memo" which has an avg of 3-4 images for 3x3 and 6 images for 4x4 edges. I'm doing this because I had to many dnf when trying to go fast.

 

[Marcell]

Erik uses pure visual memo and he's fast. Not sub-2, though.

 

[masterofthebass]

I don't know if you were to consider this visual:
I just memorize the colors of the stickers in my buffer. What I really end up doing is memorizing where the piece goes, along with it's first color sticker. I'm hovering right around 2 min and have a PB os 1:4x with using this memo system. I also use it for r2 on the 4x4.

 

[joey]

I use visual, lgarron, you knew that!

 

[Pedro]

I use visual

well, I think it is...I used to use numbers, but I don't "think" it that way anymore...

 

[alexc]

One plus I like about Macky's 3 cycle is that it is easy to memorize by just tapping the pieces in the order of the cycle, because you don't have to worry about the orientation. (This is what I do. I need a better memo system. Hopefully I'll make one soon.) However, with M2, TuRBo, or free setup 3 cycle, this way is harder because you have to remember if a piece goes to UF or FU; for Macky's 3 cycle you just need to know that it goes to that spot.

 

[malcolm]

Exactly. I use 3 cycle, and just remember the shapes the corners make, I can remember in one passing unless i get some ugly shapes which are too hard.

 

[vlarsen]

I try to translate colors into pictures. But I haven't yet thought of images for some color combinations, so I use a number system to remember these. But when I execute I try to remember visually, because it goes faster. The reason I use images/numbers and not pure visual when memorizing is for memory leaks. When I can't remember the next position automatically, I can spend a second or two running through my story-interlaced-with-numbers and figure out the place to shoot a cubie to. This slows me down a bit on memorization because I am trying to use more than one system; my memo times are usually 2:30. But I rarely have DNFs.

 

[pajodaep]

gosh, is it really possible to memorize the cube using purely visual method? i do it for the corner orientation and permutation, but my head will get overloaded if I also use it for the edges...

 

[clement]

I use pure visual memorisation (my times are about 2:30). For 4x4 also, and for multiple blindfold.

 

[Erik]

Erik uses pure visual memo and he's fast. Not sub-2, though.

not sub-2?? I did sub-2 once
Oh btw, I do visual for everything.. 3x3, 4x4, multi, etc..

 

[magicsquares]

You don't use images or stuff like that? Is visual like photographic memory or you just remember the colors/shapes?

 

[joey]

There is a dispute wether true photographic memory exists. For some visual memory is hard to explain, for me, I just can't explain what I "see".

 

[TheBB]

I use the "Macky" method, and just tried visual memo. Usually my times are from 3:30 to 4:00... and now I just produced three times below 3:30, one even 3:07: a PB, and no DNFs. I think I'll go visual from here .

Edit: I don't memorize what the cube looks like, of course. What I mean by visual memo is that I memorize the cycles "as is" on the cube, the shape the path of cubies make on the cube, so to speak. Usually, like for multi BLD, i memorize them in some other fashion.

 

[Mike Hughey]

Yeah, I had my biggest breakthrough in BLD when I switched from using person-action-object for edge permutation to using "visual" memo, exactly like you're describing, TheBB. I was actually averaging 7+ minutes, then switched to memorizing the shape of the path of the cubies, and suddenly dropped to 4-5 minutes. More than 2 minutes off my time instantly. It was the biggest change in times I've ever had.

 

[shelley]

I use purely visual memo, with Macky's 3-cycle method. But that's mostly because I was too lazy to familiarize myself with a numbering scheme. Right now I'm probably averaging around 40 seconds for memorization. However, with visual memo certain sequences are easier or harder to memorize than others, a drawback that I think people who use numbers or other memory techniques are less likely to encounter.