which one is better to learn? F2L, OLL, PLL, or ZB method?

[Ricardo Kim]

Hey I just wanted to ask if I should learn full F2L, OLL, PLL, or ZBF2L, and ZBLL?
I get sub 20 with full F2L, 2 look OLL, and 2 look PLL.
Should I change the method?

Also, I would love to have you guys recommend other methods if you think other method will be better for me.

 

[EnterPseudonym]

If you're going to change, I suggest you try Roux and ZZ. Then choose from there.
ZB is too time consuming to be practical, and recognition is bad for LL.

Would a "/thread" be inappropriate here?

 

[Chapuunka]

If you already know "full F2L", you don't need to learn it again...

After learning F2L and 4LLL, most people suggest learning full PLL and then full OLL if you want to continue learning Fridrich.

 

[Rubiks560]

Comms.

 

[Vinny]

I only use CFOP (F2L OLL & PLL), but another good method is Roux. It's a blockbuilding method, so it's fairly intuitive for the first half of a solve. If you're good at F2L, it should be fairly easy for you to do the blockbuilding.

 

[JackJ]

ZB is the easiest to learn.

 

[Rubiks560]

I only use CFOP (F2L OLL & PLL), but another good method is Roux. It's a blockbuilding method, so it's fairly intuitive for the first half of a solve. If you're good at F2L, it should be fairly easy for you to do the blockbuilding.

I only use CFOP (F2L OLL & PLL), but another good method is Petrus. It's a blockbuilding method, so it's fairly intuitive for the first half of a solve. If you're good at F2L, it should be fairly easy for you to do the blockbuilding.

 

[Cool Frog]

I only use CFOP (F2L OLL & PLL), but another good method is Roux. It's a blockbuilding method, so it's fairly intuitive for the first half of a solve. If you're good at F2L, it should be fairly easy for you to do the blockbuilding.

I only use CFOP (F2L OLL & PLL), but another good method is Petrus. It's a blockbuilding method, so it's fairly intuitive for the first half of a solve. If you're good at F2L, it should be fairly easy for you to do the blockbuilding.

F2l style blockbuilding is bad, high movecount(for the most part) and should not be used in a block building method. use the freedom of the extra turns.

and roux is all intuitive except solving for Corners (2 look can be used.)

 

[Rubiks560]

F2l style blockbuilding is bad, high movecount(for the most part) and should not be used in a block building method. use the freedom of the extra turns.

I never said said to use F2L style blockbuilding.

 

[JonnyWhoopes]

F2l style blockbuilding is bad, high movecount(for the most part) and should not be used in a block building method. use the freedom of the extra turns.

Uhh... F2L means first two layers. You can blockbuild any way you desire and end up with the first two layers solved, often in a very low movecount. I think you're referring to corner-edge-pairing instead, correct?

 

[Cyrus C.]

Roux is supreme to all other methods in every way possible. Period.



Improving on F2L will help you the most usually.

 

[JonnyWhoopes]

Roux is supreme to all other methods in every way possible. Period.

Except having official WRs.

 

[Cool Frog]

Uhh... F2L means first two layers. You can blockbuild any way you desire and end up with the first two layers solved, often in a very low movecount. I think you're referring to corner-edge-pairing instead, correct?

Yes, I thought he was meaning CFOP style.

I never said said to use F2L style blockbuilding.

Woops I assumed.

Roux is supreme to all other methods in every way possible. Period.



Improving on F2L will help you the most usually.

No, I think ZZ, roux, petrus, heise, and FreeFOP are all supreme to some other methods.
Just because I use roux doesn't mean I think it is the best for everything

 

[cubeslayer]

Hey I just wanted to ask if I should learn full F2L, OLL, PLL, or ZBF2L, and ZBLL?
I get sub 20 with full F2L, 2 look OLL, and 2 look PLL.
Should I change the method?

Also, I would love to have you guys recommend other methods if you think other method will be better for me.

By Full F2L, do you mean algorithmic and not intuitive? If anything, I suggest you learn full PLL and full OLL in order to complete your CFOP.

 

[Cool Frog]

By Full F2L, do you mean algorithmic and not intuitive? If anything, I suggest you learn full PLL and full OLL in order to complete your CFOP.

OLL does come in handy

 

[uberCuber]

Comms.

all 21 of em

 

[danthecuber]

Learn ZB helps a lot

 

[freshcuber]

Go with OLL. It's more algs but I think it's more fun to learn than PLL was and after learning full OLL full PLL won't be that bad at all.

 

[Kenneth]

Uhh... F2L means first two layers. You can blockbuild any way you desire and end up with the first two layers solved, often in a very low movecount. I think you're referring to corner-edge-pairing instead, correct?

I also read like that at first, but he says using F2L moves as a substitute for proper block building is turn consuming.