Which method is faster?Roux or fridrich?
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Well...one isn't "faster" than the other.
Roux has block building and M slice moves,
And Fridrich has a lotta algs.
I don't know much about roux so I cannot really compare. I use Fridrich.
Roux has block building and M slice moves,
And Fridrich has a lotta algs.
I don't know much about roux so I cannot really compare. I use Fridrich.
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Oh boy, you've opened up a can of worms here.
Although it can be debated which algorithm is ultimately faster the 3x3 WR single was set using Fridrich (although it was a lucky solve) and I believe Feliks Zemdigs also uses Fridrich and he has the 3x3 WR Ao5. I have no experience with Roux at all but Fridrich is fun to learn (especially intuitive F2L once you get the hang of it) and a lot of people use it so if you have a question a ton of them can help you.
Other than cross and F2L Fridrich is extremely algorithmic so after some practice your hands pretty much solve the cube almost mindlessly since you recognize the case and just execute it. Even F2L can be learned algorithmically but most people recommend intuitive over algorithmic.
I have no experience with Roux but if you're using a LBL beginners method that does daisy*-cross-first layer corners-first layer edges-orient last layer edges-orient last layer corners-permute last layer corners-permute last layer edges (or something similar) your transition into Fridrich will be pretty easy.
*some beginners methods don't use daisy but instead just start with the cross
Although it can be debated which algorithm is ultimately faster the 3x3 WR single was set using Fridrich (although it was a lucky solve) and I believe Feliks Zemdigs also uses Fridrich and he has the 3x3 WR Ao5. I have no experience with Roux at all but Fridrich is fun to learn (especially intuitive F2L once you get the hang of it) and a lot of people use it so if you have a question a ton of them can help you.
Other than cross and F2L Fridrich is extremely algorithmic so after some practice your hands pretty much solve the cube almost mindlessly since you recognize the case and just execute it. Even F2L can be learned algorithmically but most people recommend intuitive over algorithmic.
I have no experience with Roux but if you're using a LBL beginners method that does daisy*-cross-first layer corners-first layer edges-orient last layer edges-orient last layer corners-permute last layer corners-permute last layer edges (or something similar) your transition into Fridrich will be pretty easy.
*some beginners methods don't use daisy but instead just start with the cross
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Most of the world's best speedcubers use Fridrich.
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Fridrich:
Or Roux:
You decide.
Or Roux:
You decide.
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Fridrich is faster, obviously. Only one handed, blind people use Roux. Fact.
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IMO they are equal - for 3x3 speedsolving, anyway.
But I think that for feet, OH, and bigcubes, Fridrich is a better choice.
But I think that for feet, OH, and bigcubes, Fridrich is a better choice.
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Even if you have a table. I'd like to see someone get a sub-20 avg5 OH with roux (and that's not even good anymore, WR is sub-15 now...).
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Inb4 "Or you could use Petrus".
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Do Roux x 7!
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Or you can use the clearly best ZZ.
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Oh goodness, no...
I use Roux on big cubes.
Anywho. This has been debated over and over again. Both roux and Fridrich have their upsides and downsides but they're equally "fast." I feel that the only reason why many people do Roux is the mentality that "most of the fast people" use CFOP. However, it has been proven that Roux is capable of being just as fast at CFOP by Big Green and Kirjava. Choosing a method simply because someone is faster with it is just stupid.
Personally I have been using Roux for well around 3 years now. I'm avging betweein 12-13. For OH I'm do about 23 with a 17 single. Here's what I think are the pros and cons about each method.
CFOP
Pros
CFOP is very fast and uses lots of algorithms. All you have to really do is spit algs back out which is good and repetitive knowing all you have to do is "the same thing over and over again." People who learned an LBL beginner method will have an easy time transitioning to CFOP. Also you can apply the method to more puzzles like big cubes and megaminx.
Cons
I feel like the fun factor in CFOP is very limited. The amount of algs to a beginner will seems like a shock at first, but all you really need to do is practice them. I feel like some people who use CFOP really don't understand how the cube "works" since you keep using preset algs. There is no exploration value with it for some people who just want to be fast IMO.
Roux
Pros
A fast block building method. Roux generally take less moves than CFOP (STM) and ends with <M,U> which can be fast for a lot people. There isn't as many algorithms in Roux in comparison to CFOP but knowing more algs can only help. Kirjava has done sub-15 using only 2 algs. In my experience, I've done sub-17 using 9 algs from 4LLL. Personally, I find Roux more fun since of the different solutions to blocks almost every time. I find that a majority of people who over block building methods (not just Roux) know the cube and how pieces move, etc.
Cons
Block building does take a while to used to if you started with a basic LBL beginner method. Finding blocks can be difficult at first, but all you can really do is practice. Also the term "bad edge" scares people. It's not evil is just needs to be flipped. Also Roux cannot be applied so easily with certain events and on other puzzles especially minx. Also you risk more DNFs than +2 if you miss an M.
tl;dr - Both methods are fast and both have upsides and downsides.
I use Roux on big cubes.
Anywho. This has been debated over and over again. Both roux and Fridrich have their upsides and downsides but they're equally "fast." I feel that the only reason why many people do Roux is the mentality that "most of the fast people" use CFOP. However, it has been proven that Roux is capable of being just as fast at CFOP by Big Green and Kirjava. Choosing a method simply because someone is faster with it is just stupid.
Personally I have been using Roux for well around 3 years now. I'm avging betweein 12-13. For OH I'm do about 23 with a 17 single. Here's what I think are the pros and cons about each method.
CFOP
Pros
CFOP is very fast and uses lots of algorithms. All you have to really do is spit algs back out which is good and repetitive knowing all you have to do is "the same thing over and over again." People who learned an LBL beginner method will have an easy time transitioning to CFOP. Also you can apply the method to more puzzles like big cubes and megaminx.
Cons
I feel like the fun factor in CFOP is very limited. The amount of algs to a beginner will seems like a shock at first, but all you really need to do is practice them. I feel like some people who use CFOP really don't understand how the cube "works" since you keep using preset algs. There is no exploration value with it for some people who just want to be fast IMO.
Roux
Pros
A fast block building method. Roux generally take less moves than CFOP (STM) and ends with <M,U> which can be fast for a lot people. There isn't as many algorithms in Roux in comparison to CFOP but knowing more algs can only help. Kirjava has done sub-15 using only 2 algs. In my experience, I've done sub-17 using 9 algs from 4LLL. Personally, I find Roux more fun since of the different solutions to blocks almost every time. I find that a majority of people who over block building methods (not just Roux) know the cube and how pieces move, etc.
Cons
Block building does take a while to used to if you started with a basic LBL beginner method. Finding blocks can be difficult at first, but all you can really do is practice. Also the term "bad edge" scares people. It's not evil is just needs to be flipped. Also Roux cannot be applied so easily with certain events and on other puzzles especially minx. Also you risk more DNFs than +2 if you miss an M.
tl;dr - Both methods are fast and both have upsides and downsides.
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Well that's not too difficult. You could do it like the sandwich method, or you could use the Standler method. There are speedcubing methods that allow you to use Roux on 7x7.
Also there are more people who use Fridrich than Roux. Of course there are going to be more good Fridrich users. It also has the most information about it compared to any other method. As far as two handed solving goes, I think Roux is equal to (and maybe soon to be slightly better than) fridrich.
Personally I use an advanced 6-look corners first method for 2 handed. I'm not that interested in one-handed solving, but when I do, I prefer Petrus because of the lower move count.
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