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Which is better for 2x2x2? CLL or Ortega?

Soren333

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Corners of the Last Layer. It's like LBL but you do OLL and PLL at the same time.

CLL is better than Ortega. Less moves, fewer looks.
So in the different methods of solving the 2x2, is the only difference between them the way that you solve the last layer?

And what is LBL?
 

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Come on, you guys. Please, do some research before asking these questions. But, here you go.

Ortega tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xorznVr_1tk

Look on the Cubing World channel for CLL tutorials.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5VtLOA9dZwB5AxRZyZw4_g

Speesolving Wiki for 2x2 methods:
http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Layer_by_layer
http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Ortega
http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/CLL
http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/EG_Method

LBL: Slowest, and easiest to learn
Ortega: Less slow, and a bit harder to learn
CLL: Faster, and even harder to learn
EG: Fastest, and hardest to learn

Method steps:
LBL: First Layer, then OLL, then PLL (9 algs: 7 OLLs, 2 PLLs)
Ortega: First Face, then OLL, then PBL (13 algs: 7 OLLs, 6 PBLs)
CLL: First Layer, then OLL + PLL both in 1 alg (42 algs. 7 of those algs are the OLLs; 2 of them are the PLLs. 35 other CLL algs.)
EG: First Face, then OLL + PBL both in 1 alg (128 algs. The 42 algs already used in CLL plus 86 more.)

PBL = Permute Both Layers. It's PLL for the bottom AND the top layer in 1 alg.
 
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IRNjuggle28

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Well, EG is 126 but yeah, that pretty much sums up 2x2 methods right there :)

EDIT: Don't forget TCLL though :p
Well, this thread was started by someone asking if Ortega or CLL was better, and if you're there you have other things to worry about than TCLL. But as an advanced method, definitely.

P.S. GJ on WR. :D
 

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So you force Y on top? That sounds horribly inefficient. I would only ever do that if OLL alg I want to use is also CLL for that case. I like to force J on top so I get double bar PBL, but that's just me.
 

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So you force Y on top? That sounds horribly inefficient. I would only ever do that if OLL alg I want to use is also CLL for that case. I like to force J on top so I get double bar PBL, but that's just me.
It's actually really good for me. I could force J on top but that requires having to AUF before the alg. Forcing Y lets me go immediately into the alg without AUFing a bar. Plus I love my alg for it.
 

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It's actually really good for me. I could force J on top but that requires having to AUF before the alg. Forcing Y lets me go immediately into the alg without AUFing a bar. Plus I love my alg for it.
I like the alg I use for that too but double j is still faster I think. Though no auf make sense I suppose.
 
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