Which cuber has the fastest turn speed?

[Owen]

M follows L

I disagree.

 

[aronpm]

I disagree.

You're wrong.

 

[Gaétan Guimond]

speed or timer ?

Everything is relative with the cube. There is a difference between the timer and speed of execution and use of the method. Would see each using the same identical alg on a motion which does not favor a right-handed or left-handed. The layer by layer method doesn't use many slide, my speciality.

 

[MrIndianTeen]

What if they just timed Hperm?

 

[somerandomkidmike]

What if they just timed Hperm?

The H perm isn't everybody's fastest algorithm, so that's not a good way to measure turning speed.

 

[amostay2004]

I can turn faster than Faz. I do R U R' U' x100 much faster than he does F' U F U' x100

 

[ElectricDoodie]

I disagree.

:fp

"A yard is 3ft."
"I disagree."

Why can't some people just admit to being wrong?

 

[EricReese]

:fp

"A yard is 3ft."
"I disagree."

Why can't some people just admit to being wrong?

And he is contradicting a guy whose main method is Roux, one that is known for spamming of M slice moves

 

[Zbox95]

I'd say Brendan Wallace, he is really fast.

 

[Akuma]

I've seen some ZZ users turn the cube so fast that will even make Fez cry. (No offense Fez!)
Just because you have a fast turning speed doesn't mean you're a quick solver. Some method emphasize on quick turning speeds (like ZZ) while others prioritize other stuff.

My point is that turningspeed =! good cuber.

 

[yamahammer08]

:fp

"A yard is 3ft."
"I disagree."

Why can't some people just admit to being wrong?

Theres different sets of notation though, so there is no real right or wrong answer for which way M or M' goes. But there is only one set of US customary units, so a yard is always 3 feet. So some people could say M follows R, and others can say M follows L, and they'd both be right. Or am I completely wrong and/or missing the argument?

 

[DavidWoner]

You are wrong, as is Owen.

 

[yamahammer08]

Well I think whoever decided to make M follow L is wrong, it just seems completely counter-intuitive to me. lol

 

[Kian]

You are wrong, as is Owen.

I just wish he had Owened up to his mistake, amirite?

 

[DavidWoner]

Well I think whoever decided to make M follow L is wrong, it just seems completely counter-intuitive to me. lol

That's because you are right-hand dominant. Wrong and counter-intuitive are two very different things. It's just an arbitrary decision that you are going to have to live with, much like the order of the letters in the alphabet.

 

[uberCuber]

What if they just timed Hperm?

My H perm had the second slowest TPS out of all of my PLLs last time I checked, even in Slice Turn Metric.

Which algs are fastest will always depend on the person, which is what makes it so difficult to answer a question like "Which cuber has the fastest turn speed?"

 

[Yes We Can!]

I'd say Brendan Wallace, he is really fast.

I don't think there is a cuber called Brendan Wallace.
Three mistakes in there

 

[qqwref]

Theres different sets of notation though, so there is no real right or wrong answer for which way M or M' goes.

Nope, the direction of M is standardized. Anyone who uses it to mean that it follows the R slice is wrong, in the same way that anyone who says "I has" is wrong. I agree the direction of M (and E and S) is arbitrary, and probably not the best possible definition, but that's how it is and it's too late to change something that is so firmly entrenched.

 

[yamahammer08]

That's because you are right-hand dominant. Wrong and counter-intuitive are two very different things. It's just an arbitrary decision that you are going to have to live with, much like the order of the letters in the alphabet.

Wrong wasn't the correct word choice I guess. IMO, it just feels like it should be the other way, as you said because I'm right-hand dominant. Also, I refuse to believe that C should come before D. Clearly, they are wrong

Nope, the direction of M is standardized. Anyone who uses it to mean that it follows the R slice is wrong, in the same way that anyone who says "I has" is wrong. I agree the direction of M (and E and S) is arbitrary, and probably not the best possible definition, but that's how it is and it's too late to change something that is so firmly entrenched.

Gotcha, thanks for the explanation. Didn't realize M was standardized. I thought I had remembered seeing it different ways on different websites, but could easily be misremembering. Maybe it was just my confusion that made me believe I had seen it two different ways.

 

[Owen]

:fp

"A yard is 3ft."
"I disagree."

Why can't some people just admit to being wrong?

Who came up with the M follows L thing? How do you know they're not wrong?