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What is the easiest WCA event to get world class at?

One Wheel

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Predict what puzzle the WCA will choose to adopt after they kick feet to the curb and start practicing that. My money is on either 'interpretive snake' or 'watch', which is the 2x2 version of 'clock'...
I’m not a bookie, but if I was I would put the chance of WCA going through with eliminating feet at about 35%. All the arguments for keeping it are sound logical reasons, and the arguments for eliminating it boil down to “I don’t like it.”
 

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All the n×ns (including megaminx and OH, not including 222) rely very heavily on looking ahead and maintaining a near-constant high TPS at world-class speeds. Algs are useful, but beyond the fundamentals (e.g. full OLL), are not the determining factor.
I know you said this is just speculation but as a world-class megaminx solver I'd like to respectfully disagree with you on this. Megaminx doesn't require turning as quickly as people think. I think I average somewhere in the range of 3-4 TPS. That's a 15 average on 3x3, which I think most people would agree is mediocre. Also, learning alg sets is pretty important. On average, a one-look PLL is about two seconds faster than a two-look. That might not sound like a lot but the difference between a 35 and a 37 is pretty big. Phillip Lewicki is probably the best example of this. He's sub-40 with almost no PLLs and if you ask him he'll say he could be quite a bit faster if he knew PLL. I just recorded some solves with a headcam to reconstruct them and find out what my actual TPS is, so I'll get back to you on that.

Looking ahead is incredibly important though :)
 

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That's a 15 average on 3x3, which I think most people would agree is mediocre.
wow are you calling me mediocre Anyway, that's a good point, and input from someone who's actually world-class is definitely more relevant than my wild speculation, haha.

Assuming a megaminx solve takes ~160 moves, you would need 5 TPS to get to 32 seconds. While 5 TPS really isn't that high if you compare it to the 8-10 TPS people are getting on 3×3×3, I'm also wondering if there's a much lower TPS cap on megaminx compared to the cubic puzzles. If, for example, for megaminx the TPS cap is like 6 TPS and you need 5 TPS to be world class, then that seems to be harder to achieve than 10 TPS on 333 with a 15+ TPS cap.
 

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wow are you calling me mediocre Anyway, that's a good point, and input from someone who's actually world-class is definitely more relevant than my wild speculation, haha.

Assuming a megaminx solve takes ~160 moves, you would need 5 TPS to get to 32 seconds. While 5 TPS really isn't that high if you compare it to the 8-10 TPS people are getting on 3×3×3, I'm also wondering if there's a much lower TPS cap on megaminx compared to the cubic puzzles. If, for example, for megaminx the TPS cap is like 6 TPS and you need 5 TPS to be world class, then that seems to be harder to achieve than 10 TPS on 333 with a 15+ TPS cap.
This is pretty off-topic now so I made a separate post about my findings: https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/three-sub-40-megaminx-reconstructions-what-tps-do-you-need-to-be-world-class-at-megaminx.75480/#post-1335197
 

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wow are you calling me mediocre Anyway, that's a good point, and input from someone who's actually world-class is definitely more relevant than my wild speculation, haha.

Assuming a megaminx solve takes ~160 moves, you would need 5 TPS to get to 32 seconds. While 5 TPS really isn't that high if you compare it to the 8-10 TPS people are getting on 3×3×3, I'm also wondering if there's a much lower TPS cap on megaminx compared to the cubic puzzles. If, for example, for megaminx the TPS cap is like 6 TPS and you need 5 TPS to be world class, then that seems to be harder to achieve than 10 TPS on 333 with a 15+ TPS cap.
going through cubesolv.es, the top tps reached on 6x6 and 7x7 is in that range too. 5x5 which is a slightly longer event with comparably hardware quality does go easily to 6 though.
 

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honestly i think it depends on the person. some are definitely easier than others but none are "easy". But the easiest are probably FMC, 2x2, skewb, pyra, clock, mega, oh, and feet. all of these events require very little knowledge to be known just some basic algs and a lot of practice. i got world class at pyra oh and feet by just doing 1000s of solves. for pyraminx it was a bit more complicated as i learned over 20 methods sand became method neutral but there are people much better with much less knowledge.
 

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I want to know what the easiest WCA event to get world class at is. This is in terms of the amount of time you need to put in to become good, number of algs you need, etc.

leave your suggestions below and explain why you believe that the certain event is the easiest.
Nothing is easy to get good at. No matter what event you do, it will take a long time to become top 1,000 or 100.
 
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In that case, you need thousands or solves, a bunch of algs, and pretty much addiction.
Unless it’s clock
Source: I was 43rd in the world for clock average at some point and I’m sure if I could have attended more competitions and practiced a little more I could have gotten top 15 without much effort
 

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All it takes to become world class at 7x7 is alot of solves, as long as you have good 3x3 efficiency. It took me about 6 months and about 2000 solves to go from 4 minute average to 2:45 and I got a good official single back in June of 2:38 that put me top 100 in the world at the time. As long as you know the basics it's just practice to get faster, sure some l2c and l2e algs are helpful but no algorithm is going to make a huge difference over a 2:45 solve
 

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I think that all popular events (nxn's skewb pyra etc.) are actually the hardest to get good at because there are so many people doing them.
Sub-4 on skewb and sub-10 on 3x3 are about the same barrier but that skewb average ranks me ~150th in the world while the 3x3 average ranks me ~1300th in the world.
I really think that most of it is popularity and how optimized the event is (clock is an exception lol)
 
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