Weekly competition 2008-41

Gahh, did scrambles for OH, 2x2x2, and 4x4x4 but all were so terrible I'm too ashamed to submit :(

Only thing worth saying, is that I got 2 sub 5s on 2x2x2 (the average, however, ended up sup 6 because of later terrible solves), and a 27.94 on OH (almost UK record if I'd got in comp, and I've only been OH cubing a few months :P )
 
Chukk said:
Gahh, did scrambles for OH, 2x2x2, and 4x4x4 but all were so terrible I'm too ashamed to submit :(

Only thing worth saying, is that I got 2 sub 5s on 2x2x2 (the average, however, ended up sup 6 because of later terrible solves), and a 27.94 on OH (almost UK record if I'd got in comp, and I've only been OH cubing a few months :P )
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Oh, don't be ridiculous. I post really awful times regularly! If I was like you, I guarantee I wouldn't have posted my 5x5x5 times last week - truly awful, even for me!

:D
 
AvGalen said:
Really fast DNF Joey. I can beat either the time, or the amount of pieces solved, but not both at once.
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Haha!

I think 24 seconds, all corners and 4 edges is still very impressive!

Joey, why not finish the whole cube? You only have 8 more edges to do?

I think I can finish all corners 24*2 seconds.
 
fanwuq said:
AvGalen said:
Really fast DNF Joey. I can beat either the time, or the amount of pieces solved, but not both at once.
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Haha!

I think 24 seconds, all corners and 4 edges is still very impressive!

Joey, why not finish the whole cube? You only have 8 more edges to do?

I think I can finish all corners 24*2 seconds.
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I needed to beat a 54/56 DNF, so I just went crazy! I was only having a bit of fun! Afterall, thats why we have this online competition :D
 
fanwuq said:
Ville Seppänen said:
AvGalen said:
Ville: We should meet sometime. If you will teach me how to do 3x3x3_bf succesfully in 50.02, I will teach you how to DNF 3x3x3_bf much faster than that pathetic 54 and 56 seconds ;)
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Yes, we should, I really need to get better at DNFing :). I will teach you that if you teach me how to get sub30 in FMC.
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Can I also get into this deal?

The secret of sub-30 FMC is to use premoves and get a nice 2x2x3 block, hopefully less than 10 moves. Then, play around using Petrus techniques to solve the cube until you only have 1 or 2 3 cycles left or a 4 cycle. Hopefully the total will be less than 25. Then, you do your insertion and hope that you can cancel enough moves to get the solve sub-30. If you can't get it, take longer on that scramble or start on a new, hopefully easier scramble.

Now, how can you memo so fast and still not have long pauses in your execution? Or just memo so fast?
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You're right, this is one good and popular way of solving FMC. But not the only one. Another good approach is to solve most pieces in about 10-16 moves to built a "skeleton", then make insertions af all kinds. Just a note, a 4-cycle is not good since it doesn't come alone. You probably mean two 2-cycles or a 3-cycle+1twist (for corners). Then, in competitions, you have just one scramble, not a few to choose from. You can try the inverse scramble if you struggle with the normal scramble. But it rarely helps much. You will get the same number of corner-edge pairs, for example, most likely 1 pair or (less likely) no pair at all.
 
All done!

Mike Hughey:

2x2x2: 23.09, 12.94, 10.25, 12.15, 12.34 = 12.48
3x3x3: 33.47, 28.71, 23.81, 28.55, 30.43 = 29.23
4x4x4: 2:11.62 (O), 1:57.70 (O), 1:57.59, 1:35.65, 2:00.28 (P) = 1:58.52
5x5x5: 2:41.28, 2:45.92, 2:52.31, 2:46.78, 2:57.29 = 2:48.34
Comment: Well, that’s better than last week! (Almost 20 seconds faster!) For me, some days are really good on 5x5x5, and others are really bad. The day before this I couldn’t get a single solve under 3 minutes.
6x6x6: 6:35.34 (P, POP), 6:28.38 (O), 5:52.94 (P), 6:40.30 (P), 6:02.18 = 6:21.97
7x7x7: 9:36.28, 8:38.97, 9:28.66, 8:38.53, 9:12.25 = 9:06.63
2x2x2 BLD: 54.88, 57.28, DNF = 54.88
3x3x3 BLD: 2:13.68, 2:37.44, 1:53.75 = 1:53.75
Comment: Yeah!
4x4x4 BLD: 10:48.84 (4:42), 9:22.10 (4:51), 11:25.88 (3:41) = 9:22.10
Comment: Pretty bad memory stall on the first solve; TERRIBLE memory stall on the third solve. I figure I spent probably 4 minutes trying to recall that one – I really think it could have been sub-8 if it hadn’t been for that. :( It was nice to finally get a sub-10 solve again – the second scramble was a pretty easy one.
5x5x5 BLD: 22:20.49 (10:35), 20:53.67 (11:38), DNF (21:31.01, 10:35) = 20:53.67
Comment: Third one off by 4 X centers.
6x6x6 BLD: 43:58.67 (19:57), DNS, DNS = 43:58.67
Comment: New PB! It was weird - I didn't have any mistakes or memory failures, so it went very steady, but it felt like I was going really slow the whole way. There was lots of room for improvement on this solve. Next stop: sub-40!
7x7x7 BLD: DNF (1:10:02.54, 31:15), DNS, DNS = DNF
Comment: Sorry, still no video yet. I was only off by 3 obliques! Apparently I forgot to do the execution for one image. (I had it memorized correctly.) I really thought I had done it, but apparently not.
3x3x3 multiBLD: 3/5 = 1 point, 32:09.12 (19:53)
Comment: Just awful! 4th cube off by 2 EO, 5th cube off by 2 EO, 3 EP.
3x3x3 OH: 58.96, 51.91, 57.65, 48.15, 50.68 = 53.41
3x3x3 WF: 3:41.84, 2:13.36, 2:36.72, 2:44.02, 1:36.25 = 2:31.37
Comment: Very bad this week. I messed up the PLL badly on the first one. The PLLs gave me big trouble on every solve. (Except the last one, since it was a PLL skip.)
3x3x3 Match the scramble: 1:52.96, 1:21.65, 1:42.06, 2:38.46, DNF (1:16.21) = 2:04.49
Comment: If only it weren’t for the DNF, this would have been a great average. The DNF was 2 corners misoriented.
2-4 relay: 2:26.93 (O)
2-5 relay: 5:38.72
2-6 relay: 12:23.67 (OP, O)
2-7 relay: 20:59.29 (O, OP)
Magic: 2.27, 3.69, 2.18, 3.06, 2.55 = 2.63
Master Magic: 4.08, 4.78, 4.53, 4.16, 4.44 = 4.38
Snake: Still don’t have one.
Clock: 31.28, 24.91, 51.44, 27.03, 25.75 = 28.02
MegaMinx: 4:10.91, 2:52.68, 3:36.18, 3:16.33, 3:19.43 = 3:23.98
Pyraminx: 26.66, 54.63, 22.27, 28.33, 21.68 = 25.75
Square-1: 1:34.00, 1:36.43 (P), 1:13.66, 1:15.06 (P), 1:15.83 (P) = 1:21.63
3x3x3 Fewest Moves: 40 moves
R D L2 D’ R’ D L2 D’ F’ D2 F’ U2 B2 D2 U2 R’ U2 B’ R2 U’ B’ R2 U2 B’ R2 B2 U2 B’ U’ B U B’ D L’ D’ R2 D L D’ R2
2x2x2: . F’ D2 F’ U2 B2 D2
2x2x3: U2 R’ U2 B’ R2 U’ B’
3x cross: R2 U2 B’ R2 B
fix all edges, leaves 4 corners: B U2 B’ U’ B U B’
fix a corner: D L’ D’ R2 D L D’ R2
insert at . (beginning): R D L2 D’ R’ D L2 D’
B B become B2 after 3x cross. Couldn’t find any good insertions. :(
4x4x4 Fewest Moves: 93 moves
Rw F R’ Uw D B U2 F Rw F R’ L’ Dw R’ Uw2 R2 B2 Uw L2 B’ Rw’ U2 F’ L2 F Rw Fw U’ B’ U Fw’ L2 Uw’ R U’ R’ Uw B Uw2 L D’ L’ Rw2 F2 Uw2 U2 F2 Rw2 Uw2 B Rw’ U L2 U’ Rw R’ U’ D’ R2 B’ U’ B2 U F U’ B2 U F’ L2 B2 U2 L2 U2 L U’ L’ U2 L’ U’ L F U R U’ R’ F’ R B U B’ U’ R’ U2
centers: Rw F R’ Uw D B U2 F Rw
F R’ L’ Dw R’ Uw2 R2 B2 Uw
L2 B’ Rw’ U2 F’ L2 F Rw
Edges: Fw U’ B’ U Fw’
L2 Uw’ R U’ R’ Uw
B Uw2 L D’ L’
(insert PLL parity fix) Rw2 F2 Uw2 U2 F2 Rw2 Uw2
(finish edges) B Rw’ U L2 U’ Rw
3x3x3: R’ U’ D’ R2
3x3x4: B’ . L2 B2
3x cross: U2 L2 U2 L U’ L’
4th pair: U2 L’ U’ L
2 OLLs leave 3 corners: F U R U’ R’ F’ R B U B’ U’ R’ U2
insert at .: U’ B2 U F U’ B2 U F’
Finished in 57 minutes! If only I hadn’t had PLL parity, this could have been a very nice solve.
 
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I just did the FMC and found it very hard. It took me 45 minutes just to find this good beginning:
2x2x2: R' U2 F' U2 B2
double X-Cross: R F U F
do premove U' to see why the next part works:
14 moves for (pseudeo) F2L: F' U' B' R2 B, R U F U

But after that I couldn't find a good way to finish. I just did a 3 look last layer:
6 move OLL 1: F D R D' R' F'
6 move OLL 2: D R B R' B' D' *
AUF and undo premove: R U'
Insert last 3 edges at the * like this: D2 R' F B' D2 F' B R' D2

I don't consider this insertion to actually be an insertion, but I couldn't find another place to insert it.

Am I missing something obvious in the ending or was this just a case of "good F2L, bad luck for the LL"

Total solution becomes: R' U2 F' U2 B2 R F B' R2 B R U F U F D R D' R' F' D R B R' B' D R' F B' D2 F' B R' D2 R U' = 36


Edit: might as well post everything

2x2x2: 9.15 8.21 4.03 7.25 8.22 = 7.89
3x3x3: 24.21 25.47 33.33 22.75 17.55 = 24.14
3x3x3_comment: The 17.55 was done using beginners method. I tried to insert 2 corners during the cross. I ended up inserting all 4 of them by accident. edge-control + 3 look last layer on that one
4x4x4: 1:33.25 1:31.18 1:16.44 1:40.06 1:32.38 = 1:32.27
5x5x5: 2:11.15 2:34.55 1:16.91 2:14.52 2:04.71 = 2:10.13
6x6x6: 5:59.86 5:58.94 5:27.38 5:43.19 4:49.38 = 5:43.17
6x6x6_comment: Go slow technique on the last one: 0 pops ;)
7x7x7: 8:31.59 7:45.31 8:08.88 8:29.06 7:38.86 = 8:07.75
7x7x7_comment: Go slow technique on the last one: 0 pops ;)
2x2x2_bf: DNF 1:46.28 1:20.97 = 1:20.97
3x3x3_bf: 5:03.77 DNF DNF = 5:03.77
3x3x3_mbf: 0/2 in 14 minutes something = 0 points
3x3x3_mbf_comment: I was so sure I had both of them correct. It turned out that instead of doing T-Perm for parity-fixes I did the new Y-Perm I have learned this week. Undoing+Redoing it showed that I really would have solved both of them :(. This I why I hate learning algs.
3x3x3_oh: 39.65 39.19 36.66 48.18 42.91 = 40.58
3x3x3_match: 1:59.96 1:14.94 1:27.88 1:41.56 1:05.66 = 1:28.13
3x3x3_match_comment: That last scramle had a really easy cross: B' M D'
3x3x3_fmc: R' U2 F' U2 B2 R F B' R2 B R U F U F D R D' R' F' D R B R' B' D R' F B' D2 F' B R' D2 R U' = 36
234-Relay: 2:12.68
2345-Relay: 4:26.22
23456-Relay: 10:04.71
234567-Relay: 18:15.44
Magic: 1.75 2.08 3.21 4.66 3.28 = 2.86
Master Magic: 4.59 6.18 5.00 4.66 5.30 = 4.99
Clock: 12.52 20.25 18.78 17.25 18.56 = 18.20
Clock_comment: I always suspected clock-scrambles to be bad. After doing the 1st scramble I know why (cross on back only gets scrambled during the first 4 moves). I solved it without flipping the clock over
MegaMinx: 2:56.68 3:23.78 3:17.11 3:04.44 3:04.55 = 3:08.70
MegaMinx_comment: Daylight :)
Square-1: 1:06.33 1:09.08 1:30.44 1:31.47 1:03.38 = 1:15.28
Square-1_comment: All 5 solves had parity and 4 step edges :(
 
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2x2x2 I did terribly:
1) 12.12 1. D B' U2 B U2 R' F L2 U' B R2 F R2 F U B U' L B U R2 D' B D2 L2

2) 13.83 2. D L2 D' L B U2 B U' L2 D B' U2 B' D2 B U R2 D2 B' R' D' F R' B L

3) 10.46 3. F2 D B D' F' L' B2 U R D' L2 F R U F2 D R D R U2 L' B2 R' B2 D'

4) 14.00 4. R' U B2 D' L2 B' U2 L' U2 F2 R2 F U2 R2 B' R' U' R' U' L' B2 R U F2 U

5) 13.64 5. L D R2 U2 F' L B R2 D L' D2 R' F2 D F U' F2 L B' D2 B2 U2 B R U2
Too embarrassed to put 3x3 times up.
 
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