Weekly competition 2007-43 (2,3,3OH,4,5,BF,SQ1,MG,MMG,FMC,MM,PM,Relay)
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masterofthebass
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---BLD---
2x2 -> 47.95
47.95, 1:14.59 tried 3-cycle on the second... needs more work
3x3 -> 2:05.03
2:05.03, 2:09.13
4x4 ->
DNF (13:12.68) shot to YR instead of RY... stupid color pairs...
2x2 -> 47.95
47.95, 1:14.59 tried 3-cycle on the second... needs more work
3x3 -> 2:05.03
2:05.03, 2:09.13
4x4 ->
DNF (13:12.68) shot to YR instead of RY... stupid color pairs...
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3x3 BLD:
1: 2:12.49
2: DNF
DNF I got tired and gave up XD
1: 2:12.49
2: DNF
DNF I got tired and gave up XD
2x2: 14.97 , (12.66) , 13.91 , (16.25) , 14.42 Average = 14.43
3x3: (33.39) , 32.56 , 27.06 , (24.48) , 31.03 Average = 30.21
3x3 OH: (1:19.92) , 2:09.70 , 1:56.50, 1:42.22, (3:25.72) Average = 116.14(1:56.14)
Yeah yeah I know I suck, I just wanted to try entering for once. Sadly that OH best time is my PB
Dunno what happened on the 3:25
3x3: (33.39) , 32.56 , 27.06 , (24.48) , 31.03 Average = 30.21
3x3 OH: (1:19.92) , 2:09.70 , 1:56.50, 1:42.22, (3:25.72) Average = 116.14(1:56.14)
Yeah yeah I know I suck, I just wanted to try entering for once. Sadly that OH best time is my PB
Dunno what happened on the 3:25
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2: (3.02), 5.89, 3.91, 4.67, (5.92) --> 4.83 killer high 5s
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAqPEmHEQ24
3: 15.55, 15.19, (17.27), 16.47, (14.31) -->15.74 average
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neZGKYWfp1Q
3OH: (30.70), (34.72), 33.91, 34.67, 32.98 --> 33.85 This just isn't my thing; 1 PLL skip
4: (1:13.30 P), 1:13.38, 1:14.25 O, (1:14.31 P), 1:14.16 O --> 1:13.93 Now THAT'S consistent! Range of 1.01 and nice times!
5: 2:43.41, (2:51.47), (2:39.52), 2:40.84, 2:44.66 --> 2:42.97 nice
2BLD: 36.92, DNF (52.28)
36.92 video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAqPEmHEQ24
3BLD: DNF (3:5x.xx off by F perm somehow), DNF (3:2x.xx off on EP)
Relay: 4:14.52
2: 0:05
5: 2:32
4: 1:23 P
3: 0:14
Darn 4x4. Should've been 10 seconds faster
Fewest Moves: 32 moves
Scramble: U' R D' L' U L D R B F2 L' U L D2 F' U2 B' U2
Total: 32 moves
2x2x2: F2 R F2 L' F2 L2 (6)
2x2x3: U F U2 R2 U2 R (6)
cross + F2L + LL: F U F' U2 F U' F R' F' R U L' U L U L F' L' F U (20)
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAqPEmHEQ24
3: 15.55, 15.19, (17.27), 16.47, (14.31) -->15.74 average
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neZGKYWfp1Q
3OH: (30.70), (34.72), 33.91, 34.67, 32.98 --> 33.85 This just isn't my thing; 1 PLL skip
4: (1:13.30 P), 1:13.38, 1:14.25 O, (1:14.31 P), 1:14.16 O --> 1:13.93 Now THAT'S consistent! Range of 1.01 and nice times!
5: 2:43.41, (2:51.47), (2:39.52), 2:40.84, 2:44.66 --> 2:42.97 nice
2BLD: 36.92, DNF (52.28)
36.92 video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAqPEmHEQ24
3BLD: DNF (3:5x.xx off by F perm somehow), DNF (3:2x.xx off on EP)
Relay: 4:14.52
2: 0:05
5: 2:32
4: 1:23 P
3: 0:14
Darn 4x4. Should've been 10 seconds faster
Fewest Moves: 32 moves
Scramble: U' R D' L' U L D R B F2 L' U L D2 F' U2 B' U2
Total: 32 moves
2x2x2: F2 R F2 L' F2 L2 (6)
2x2x3: U F U2 R2 U2 R (6)
cross + F2L + LL: F U F' U2 F U' F R' F' R U L' U L U L F' L' F U (20)
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sorry if I'm missing something, but where are the results going to be posted? Are there any results past competition 30?
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FMC: 38 (My first sub 40)
2x2x1 and edge cycle: y F' U2 R L' B2 R' L F R2 F2 (10)
3x2x2: R F D F R' D L' D R2 (9)
Cross: y' F2 U' R U' R' (5)
Last two pairs: U' F U' F' U' R (5)
OLL: y R U2 R' U' R U R' F' U' (9)
First I got 41 moves. But then noticed a 3 move cancel between F2L and OLL.
2x2x1 and edge cycle: y F' U2 R L' B2 R' L F R2 F2 (10)
3x2x2: R F D F R' D L' D R2 (9)
Cross: y' F2 U' R U' R' (5)
Last two pairs: U' F U' F' U' R (5)
OLL: y R U2 R' U' R U R' F' U' (9)
First I got 41 moves. But then noticed a 3 move cancel between F2L and OLL.
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masterofthebass
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Posting the results takes a lot of time... I'm pretty sure Arnaud's been extremely busy for the past month or so, so he probably hasn't had time.
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philkt731: I am way behind with the results, but I am going to catch up. I have some more time lately and by the end of the year I will be completely caught up. This means that 1 weeks result will be posted every 1 or 2 days.
KConny: Cancellations are the main reason why you shouldn't use cube rotations. If you write a solution with R z D it is not clear that this cancels to R2. Joel van Noort had a 34 moves solutions at the Czech Open that was actually 33 moves, but he didn't notice it because of rotations. The result: I am now the holder of the Dutch National Record with 33 moves.
KConny: Cancellations are the main reason why you shouldn't use cube rotations. If you write a solution with R z D it is not clear that this cancels to R2. Joel van Noort had a 34 moves solutions at the Czech Open that was actually 33 moves, but he didn't notice it because of rotations. The result: I am now the holder of the Dutch National Record with 33 moves.
KConny
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Arnaud: Yes I know. But its hard to write it form the wrong angle. While checking my solutions I always find cancellations if there are any, I think.
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2x2x2: 6.61
6.28, (8.77), (5.55), 7.55, 6.00
3x3x3: 17.46
(12.36), (18.80), 15.96, 18.77, 17.66
4x4x4: 1:17.86
1:15.31, 1:14.77 O, 1:23.50 OP, (1:31.77 O), (1:11.19 P)
5x5x5: 2:33.33
(2:46.34), (2:26.13), 2:36.96, 2:34.28, 2:28.75
Relay: 4:37.88
BLD
2x2x2: 40.90
2x2x2: 1:06.75
3x3x3: 4:45.53
3x3x3: 4:45.47
2x2x2: 6.61
6.28, (8.77), (5.55), 7.55, 6.00
3x3x3: 17.46
(12.36), (18.80), 15.96, 18.77, 17.66
4x4x4: 1:17.86
1:15.31, 1:14.77 O, 1:23.50 OP, (1:31.77 O), (1:11.19 P)
5x5x5: 2:33.33
(2:46.34), (2:26.13), 2:36.96, 2:34.28, 2:28.75
Relay: 4:37.88
BLD
2x2x2: 40.90
2x2x2: 1:06.75
3x3x3: 4:45.53
3x3x3: 4:45.47
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Mike Hughey:
2x2x2: 11.61, (13.88), 11.43, (11.28), 12.58 = 11.87
3x3x3: (36.86), 32.28, 33.98, 34.36, (30.92) = 33.54
3x3x3 OH: (1:34.37), 1:08.48, 1:14.23, 1:00.30, (48.44) = 1:07.67
4x4x4: (2:24.31 O), 2:22.62 O, 2:23.12 OP, (1:59.33), 2:07.01 OP = 2:17.58
5x5x5: 3:34.25, (3:58.43), 3:23.74, (3:16.09), 3:25.46 = 3:27.82
Yes!!! Finally under 3:30 average for 5x5x5. I think it was a little lucky, though. For my first 3x3x3 OH, I got the stupid R-perm, which I regularly forget when doing OH for some reason (OH amnesia). I got R-perms for both of my 3x3x3 OH at the VA Open, which is why I didn't get to do a full average of 5. Obviously, I should practice the R-perm some.
2x2x2 BLD: 1:25.39, DNF (1:00.47) = 1:25.39
3x3x3 BLD: DNF (3:20.65), 3:22.79 = 3:22.79
4x4x4 BLD: 17:18.90, 20:14.55 = 17:18.90
5x5x5 BLD: DNF (41:00.30), 44:08.97 = 44:08.97
Memorization - 4x4x4: 7:50, 11:18; 5x5x5: 21:18, 24:00. First 5x5x5 was off by 2 corners, 2 central edges, and 3 + centers.
Relay: 6:35.28
Square-1: 2:35.17, 2:21.38, (3:34.37 P), (1:57.67), 2:09.81 = 2:22.12
Magic: (3.34), 3.39, (5.79), 3.63, 3.51 = 3.51
Master Magic: 8.21, (7.02), (9.27), 7.96, 8.32 = 8.16
MegaMinx: (5:17.55), 5:15.03, 5:04.47, (4:48.14), 4:55.25 = 5:04.92
Pyraminx: (35.29), 32.10, 31.83, 35.27, (21.50) = 33.07
I really need to work on square-1, in particular.
Fewest Moves: 45 moves D' R2 B2 R2 F D2 F' D' U' R' U2 F R F U' R U R' U' R' U R D R2 D' R F' R' U' B' U F U' B U2 D R2 U' R' U R2 D' R U' R'
2x2x2: D' R2 B2 R2 F D2 F' D'
2x2x3: U' R' U2
cross + flip bad edges: F R F
3rd pair: U' R U R' U' R' U
4th pair: R D R2 D' R F' R'
OLL: U' B' U F U' B U2
PLL: D R2 U' R' U R2 D' R U' R'
I lucked into this in about 30 minutes, and then spent the rest of the time playing around with premoves. They're really cool, but I think I'm not that good at quickly recognizing when something is and is not worth spending time pursuing. It looks obvious to me that orientation of edges is one of the key things - if edges are oriented bad after the first big block, it's probably worth discarding it and moving on to something else.
Anyway, I played with these:
premove L2: B2 U2 F D L D B' U' R2 U L2
premove U2 F2 U2 F2 U': R U2 L2 B U' R U2 L U'
I never found anything good with the first one. The second one seems way too long, but there was a quick way to put most of the edges in the proper place, and I thought I was going to be able to do corner commutators to fix it. It didn't quite work out, though.
2x2x2: 11.61, (13.88), 11.43, (11.28), 12.58 = 11.87
3x3x3: (36.86), 32.28, 33.98, 34.36, (30.92) = 33.54
3x3x3 OH: (1:34.37), 1:08.48, 1:14.23, 1:00.30, (48.44) = 1:07.67
4x4x4: (2:24.31 O), 2:22.62 O, 2:23.12 OP, (1:59.33), 2:07.01 OP = 2:17.58
5x5x5: 3:34.25, (3:58.43), 3:23.74, (3:16.09), 3:25.46 = 3:27.82
Yes!!! Finally under 3:30 average for 5x5x5. I think it was a little lucky, though. For my first 3x3x3 OH, I got the stupid R-perm, which I regularly forget when doing OH for some reason (OH amnesia). I got R-perms for both of my 3x3x3 OH at the VA Open, which is why I didn't get to do a full average of 5. Obviously, I should practice the R-perm some.
2x2x2 BLD: 1:25.39, DNF (1:00.47) = 1:25.39
3x3x3 BLD: DNF (3:20.65), 3:22.79 = 3:22.79
4x4x4 BLD: 17:18.90, 20:14.55 = 17:18.90
5x5x5 BLD: DNF (41:00.30), 44:08.97 = 44:08.97
Memorization - 4x4x4: 7:50, 11:18; 5x5x5: 21:18, 24:00. First 5x5x5 was off by 2 corners, 2 central edges, and 3 + centers.
Relay: 6:35.28
Square-1: 2:35.17, 2:21.38, (3:34.37 P), (1:57.67), 2:09.81 = 2:22.12
Magic: (3.34), 3.39, (5.79), 3.63, 3.51 = 3.51
Master Magic: 8.21, (7.02), (9.27), 7.96, 8.32 = 8.16
MegaMinx: (5:17.55), 5:15.03, 5:04.47, (4:48.14), 4:55.25 = 5:04.92
Pyraminx: (35.29), 32.10, 31.83, 35.27, (21.50) = 33.07
I really need to work on square-1, in particular.
Fewest Moves: 45 moves D' R2 B2 R2 F D2 F' D' U' R' U2 F R F U' R U R' U' R' U R D R2 D' R F' R' U' B' U F U' B U2 D R2 U' R' U R2 D' R U' R'
2x2x2: D' R2 B2 R2 F D2 F' D'
2x2x3: U' R' U2
cross + flip bad edges: F R F
3rd pair: U' R U R' U' R' U
4th pair: R D R2 D' R F' R'
OLL: U' B' U F U' B U2
PLL: D R2 U' R' U R2 D' R U' R'
I lucked into this in about 30 minutes, and then spent the rest of the time playing around with premoves. They're really cool, but I think I'm not that good at quickly recognizing when something is and is not worth spending time pursuing. It looks obvious to me that orientation of edges is one of the key things - if edges are oriented bad after the first big block, it's probably worth discarding it and moving on to something else.
Anyway, I played with these:
premove L2: B2 U2 F D L D B' U' R2 U L2
premove U2 F2 U2 F2 U': R U2 L2 B U' R U2 L U'
I never found anything good with the first one. The second one seems way too long, but there was a quick way to put most of the edges in the proper place, and I thought I was going to be able to do corner commutators to fix it. It didn't quite work out, though.
masterofthebass
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Rest of my results and my other 4x4 BLD. I did try a 5x5, but gave up halfway through memo. Too much info for my brain now.
4x4x4 BLD ->13:14.21
Magic
(1.18), 1.33, (1.93), 1.53, 1.44 --> 1.43
Master Magic
(3.93), (5.65), 4.19, 4.47, 4.75 --> 4.47
Pyraminx
12.50, 14.85, 13.45, (15.26), 7.78 --> 13.60
4x4x4 BLD ->13:14.21
Magic
(1.18), 1.33, (1.93), 1.53, 1.44 --> 1.43
Master Magic
(3.93), (5.65), 4.19, 4.47, 4.75 --> 4.47
Pyraminx
12.50, 14.85, 13.45, (15.26), 7.78 --> 13.60
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hdskull
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4x4x4: (2:25.14)OP, 2:11.08OP, 2:19.52O, 2:23.27OP, (2:06.25)P => 2:17.96
Just got new 4x4x4, my averages were way better yesterday.
Just got new 4x4x4, my averages were way better yesterday.
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3x3: 13.51 17.98 19.89 16.22 15.42
AVG: 16.54 Done this with my Japanese speedcubing-kit.
3x3 OH: 19.05 25.06 19.95 23.81 23.32
AVG: 22.33 Look no practise.
Marc van Beest is cool!
AVG: 16.54 Done this with my Japanese speedcubing-kit.
3x3 OH: 19.05 25.06 19.95 23.81 23.32
AVG: 22.33 Look no practise.
Marc van Beest is cool!
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3x3
Average: 54.80
#1 (43.52)
#2 53.90
#3 55.69
#4 (56.91)
#5 54.80
5x5
I've been doing 5x5 since 2 days now, but i'm getting faster.
Average: 12.51.25
#1 13.31.71
#2 (17.15.21)
#3 14.54.93
#4 (9.35.44)
#5 10.07.12
Average: 54.80
#1 (43.52)
#2 53.90
#3 55.69
#4 (56.91)
#5 54.80
5x5
I've been doing 5x5 since 2 days now, but i'm getting faster.
Average: 12.51.25
#1 13.31.71
#2 (17.15.21)
#3 14.54.93
#4 (9.35.44)
#5 10.07.12
vlarsen
Regular
A little curious about scramble notation for 4x4x4 and 5x5x5.
When I see small letters (u, for example) do I move just the 2nd layer from the top, or the top two layers?
When I see small letters (u, for example) do I move just the 2nd layer from the top, or the top two layers?
ExoCorsair
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I believe the generally accept practice is two layers for scrambling, and just the inner slice when it's in an algorithm.
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