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We need better judges.

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  • Strongly disagree

    Votes: 8 5.2%
  • Disagree

    Votes: 22 14.4%
  • Don't care

    Votes: 27 17.6%
  • Agree

    Votes: 62 40.5%
  • Strongly agree.

    Votes: 34 22.2%

  • Total voters
    153

Twifty

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I remember volunteering to judge at my first comp after all my events. I tried really hard not to mess anything up, but I forgot to reset the time once. Led to me giving the next solver an E1.
 

ganuwoahh

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I'm sure this has happened to all of us.

You finish a solve and the cube will be like marginally unsolved, like 15 degrees off and clearly not a +2, but the judge calls the delegate over anyway. Or when the judge calls your solve a DNF even though it's a U2 away. Stuff like this. This needs to stop. I had a kid come up to me complaining that his judge marked his solve as a DNF because it was a 180 degree turn away and that it was 'two' moves away from being solved.

Can't we have it such that only cubers who are old enough and/or have been to a certain number of competitions can judge; similar to how we assign scramblers?
I understand there may not be sufficient judges but I think it's worth it to have more accurate jurisdiction.
 

AbsoRuud

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I'm sure this has happened to all of us.

You finish a solve and the cube will be like marginally unsolved, like 15 degrees off and clearly not a +2, but the judge calls the delegate over anyway. Or when the judge calls your solve a DNF even though it's a U2 away. Stuff like this. This needs to stop. I had a kid come up to me complaining that his judge marked his solve as a DNF because it was a 180 degree turn away and that it was 'two' moves away from being solved.

Can't we have it such that only cubers who are old enough and/or have been to a certain number of competitions can judge; similar to how we assign scramblers?
I understand there may not be sufficient judges but I think it's worth it to have more accurate jurisdiction.
In the Netherlands, there is a judging training at every competition. There is also a system in place where newcomers have a white/green ribbon, people with 1-2 comps get a yellow ribbon and experienced competitors get a blue ribbon. Runners know not to match newbies with newbies, so these problems almost never occur. In fact, I've had the opposite where I told the judge I was fine with the +2 she gave me, but she called the delegate because it was such a minute difference. All in all most competitors are also very honest and even if the judge misses something, which happens once in a while, the competitor will almost always call out the situation. Someone at the last comp even said he got a miss scramble and had to redo a solve, which cost him about half a second on his average in Skewb.
 

alexiscubing

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Same in Australia, we do a judging tutorial, but this doesn't stop kids from talking during solves, counting by seconds during inspection and this judge even knocked my friends $50 gopro stand off the table, breaking it and not even saying sorry. There is literally no way of stopping this unless they force people to be good
 

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