Waffle's Roux Tutorial

[bwronski]

I finally understand Edge orientation...so I know love roux. I couldnt care less about my times right now because it is too much fun. Im definetly switching...plus I was in a rut with fridrich (20-24 seconds) for around a year.

Question. If after you orient edges and the bottom two are solved, do you just do a PLL? U H or Z? Instead of solving the UR and UL edges then the last 4?

 

[waffle=ijm]

You can easily do MU algs for U H and Z. so yes.

 

[bwronski]

Sweet. and your website helped alot! Some stuff was better written and others on the videos

 

[oll+phase+sync]

I finally understand Edge orientation...so I know love roux. I couldnt care less about my times right now because it is too much fun. Im definetly switching...plus I was in a rut with fridrich (20-24 seconds) for around a year.

Question. If after you orient edges and the bottom two are solved, do you just do a PLL? U H or Z? Instead of solving the UR and UL edges then the last 4?

In theory yes, but at the end of EO you should already place L/R edges in sweet spots ( one of them in D layer !?) to speed up the next step. =>
In practice it is just to rare to care.

 

[5BLD]

Hm... All you sub-15 or almost sub-15 (like me) Roux users... How much time do you spend on each of the steps? Cuz I think my CMLL might actually be letting me down now (been working on blocks like mad...).

In case you wanted to know, this is my split:
Blocks: 8-9 secs
CMLL (incl recog): 3-5 secs
Moo: 3-5 secs
And the last average of 12 I took was 15.87 secs. But realistically, I'd say I average like 16-17.

 

[Kirjava]

2.5 / 3.5 / 2 / 3

or something

 

[5BLD]

K, looks like you're pretty balanced... Let's see what others have...

 

[waffle=ijm]

3-3-2-4

 

[5BLD]

K thanks thom and waffo, looks like I'm roughly on the right track then... Although we all have different styles, I know. I think I'll keep at blocks then... Maybe a bit of mooing too... And as I always say to myself, CMLL will come with time (although I dunno whether that's true or not)

 

[oll+phase+sync]

CMLL will come with time (although I dunno whether that's true or not)

Not true for me, at least. especially CLL recognition for U, T (and L) are normaly done from a differnet angle than your fastest OCLL.

personally I started learning CLL myself, by using random mirrored positions, then I started with the 6 Sune cases (because I already knew Niklas and Sune) ... retrospective this all were rather bad decisions.

Learning the 4 H cases is maybe the best startingpoint (easy recognition patterns, nice algs, and just 4 algs ) this can be done easily while still concentrating on blocks. (if you like it continue with Pi)

Another Point: don't hurry. Only learn the next set of 6 algs when you have integrated the last set well into your solving.

 

[5BLD]

Lol, i know full CMLL already; I meant getting fast at it. It takes me like 3 to 5 seconds usually; more than a quarter of my whole solve... Which is like 13-18 secs, I'm very inconsistent I know.

But I hate drilling algs and love mooing, so I think it'll come with time while I practice blockbuilding and mooing (in real solves).

 

[waffle=ijm]

moo. first page.

 

[5BLD]

Wow. You've really put alot of effort into this

 

[buelercuber]

Wow i actually am trying roux now, finally got a good tutorial!! thanks waffo!!

 

[Cubenovice]

Hopping on the Roux train too...

Read through your website yesterday, very well written!
I already found out that (for me) EO will take some serious practice to get fast at.

LOL at the interaction between the GC and Waffo ;-)

 

[waffle=ijm]

Wow i actually am trying roux now, finally got a good tutorial!! thanks waffo!!

You're welcome.

Wow. You've really put alot of effort into this

Thanks. I actually procrastinated in creating the remake vids for a good 10+ months. ;-;

Hopping on the Roux train too...

Read through your website yesterday, very well written!
I already found out that (for me) EO will take some serious practice to get fast at.

LOL at the interaction between the GC and Waffo ;-)

Thanks! And yes LSE is quite a pain at first since it's not really something that's familiar from LBL or CFOP.

 

[LarsN]

From Waffo's guide:
"Just look for the relationships between the stickers. Opposite colors, adjacent colors, stuff like that. I DO NOT SUGGEST MY RECOGNITION METHOD "

Which recognition method is recommended then?

I use what I learned from Bob burtons COLL page, but it is giving me pains with NMCMLL. That's why I'm considering to change method. Where can I read about other methods and which do you find best for NMCMLL?

 

[waffle=ijm]

While I used sticker recognition when I was first learning CMLL, I kind of just "know the case" and same goes for NMCMLL for me. I just pay attention to the permutation of the corners more


I found this page a while back on Gilles' page http://grrroux.free.fr/method/Step_3j.html not much explanation other than on the bottom page which, in my opinion, is enough.

 

[Athefre]

I've since created a better recognition for NMCLL than on my first page you linked to:

http://www.athefre.110mb.com/NMCMLL.html

I'm also working on a third that reduces NMCLL to 42 cases instead of 83.

 

[Hershey]

What is NMCLL?