Waffle's Roux Tutorial

[waffle=ijm]

whichever is easier for that case. I just wing it.

Sounds good to me.

By winging it, do you usually try to take a quick look for an easy block, or just start right away?

I started right away.

 

[thierce]

Is there something like "The Ultimate Guide to Blockbuilding"?
Because my second block is kinda F2L-influenced Insert the D Edge, build the pairs, insert them somehow...

And also, as I'm gradually learning CMLL cases, would you recommend recognition for more than one side?

 

[jms_gears1]

Is there something like "The Ultimate Guide to Blockbuilding"?
Because my second block is kinda F2L-influenced Insert the D Edge, build the pairs, insert them somehow...

And also, as I'm gradually learning CMLL cases, would you recommend recognition for more than one side?

For your first question theres no real 'guide' however i have a video on my youtube channel that may help.

and dont learn CMLL until your around 20 seconds, but preferablly sub-20

 

[thierce]

Hm, as you wish...

Thanks for the videos, I'll look into them when I get home

Btw, just being curious: Is there such a thing as a Roux ranking? I'd love to know, who of the WCA-listed Cubers uses Roux

 

[jms_gears1]

Hm, as you wish...

Thanks for the videos, I'll look into them when I get home

Btw, just being curious: Is there such a thing as a Roux ranking? I'd love to know, who of the WCA-listed Cubers uses Roux

Not so much on WCA as an unofficial one at rouxcentral
Rouxcentral.forummotion.com

 

[miniGOINGS]

Funny you asked, Roux Rankings is one of the sections of the RouxCentral forum (that exact name too!), but they are not official times, just best averages of 12.

 

[Edward]

Is there something like "The Ultimate Guide to Blockbuilding"?
Because my second block is kinda F2L-influenced Insert the D Edge, build the pairs, insert them somehow...

And also, as I'm gradually learning CMLL cases, would you recommend recognition for more than one side?

I do that to. What I found helps, is to make SURE you don't use f2l techniques. Do like you did the first block, except with no cube rotations, and no L moves. Solve slowly and untimed, try to find little (non fridrich) tricks to help the blockbuilding.

 

[miniGOINGS]

I do that to. What I found helps, is to make SURE you don't use f2l techniques. Do like you did the first block, except with no cube rotations, and no L moves. Solve slowly and untimed, try to find little (non fridrich) tricks to help the blockbuilding.

It's generally a good idea to stick to the <r, R, M, U> movegroup. This allows the left hand to stay in place, and no rotations are needed.

 

[Kirjava]

What I found helps, is to make SURE you don't use f2l techniques.

You shouldn't write off F2L altogether - F2L and F2B still share a lot of stuff.


On another note - Roux is good for speedBLD

 

[miniGOINGS]

Probably the only person to have a success!

Which step did you find the hardest?

 

[Kirjava]

CMLL - four corners are surprisingly harder than six edges to trace. I traced one of the corners wrong, aswell - so I had to do them again. The first and second blocks were pretty easy, and I traced what the LSE would start at and just worked out the MU solution in my head.

 

[miniGOINGS]

I'm sure that the first block would be extremely easy, the second not so much. I would think that the second block would be harder than CMLL, but as you said, I would probably be suprised. I would never even think of doing this, congrats! Sub-15 next time?

 

[thierce]

Okay, thanks for the hint with the limited movegroup and NO CUBEROTATIONS at all I'll for sure give it a try

But still, what about the RD Edge? Is it to be inserted first? I mean, if it's nearly in place, there's no point in discussing, but.... you know?

And if i got that Edge inserted first, how to NOT insert F2L-like, as now I have a restriction...
pairing is combination of M-Slice and maybe F2L, which one of them happens to be easier, but insertion is rather F2L-influenced.

Any hints?

 

[miniGOINGS]

For my last slot, I usually do F2L, If you get the edge oriented on the U layer, it's <R, U> gen, although in somecases it's faster to use r moves and the M slice.

 

[Kirjava]

MBR has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

 

[miniGOINGS]

MBR has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Yea, probably.

 

[jms_gears1]

What I found helps, is to make SURE you don't use f2l techniques.

You shouldn't write off F2L altogether - F2L and F2B still share a lot of stuff.


On another note - Roux is good for speedBLD

really..... What idiot refuses to use F2L techniques.

You all do realize that block building is based off of pairs right?
If you break down most (all?) block building methods, you first place two pieces together forming a pair wither its a C/E pair or a center edge pair.

F2L just restricts pairs so that the unique sticker is the same colour as the D face. Whereas any/all block-building methods dont require you to use the D color as the unique sticker provided that you did not put the restriction on yourself.

 

[joey]

MBR has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

How else would I boot, without my 512-byte sector? ):

 

[waffle=ijm]

MBR has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

lol. ya it is.

 

[Kirjava]

MBR has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

How else would I boot, without my 512-byte sector? ):

dohoho